Marshall on the Red Cross Report

At one point I considered just running the image of the Iraqi prisoner cowering before the dogs (from the latest Seymour Hersch New Yorker article), under a headline consisting of Bush’s over-the-top praise for Rumsfeld. (“You are courageously leading our nation in the war against terror. You are doing a superb job. You are a strong secretary of defense, and our nation owes you a debt of gratitude.”) I didn’t, because I didn’t want to increase the chances of needing to have another conversation like the one I had when my 6-year-old son appeared unannounced behind me while I was reading the paper at breakfast the other day.

(If you really want to see that quotation juxtaposed with that particular picture, you can do so courtesy of Lambert at Corrente: “superb job“. Great minds, and all that.)

What I will do here is encourage you to read Joshua Micah Marshall’s analysis of the newly released Red Cross report on Abu Ghraib: I took some time this evening…

Marshall’s main reaction? Well, the report could have been worse; it doesn’t sound as if every American in the system was engaged in organized abuse of all the prisoners. But what it does describe blows a huge hole in the “handful of bad apples” theory.

According to the report, all Iraqi prisoners were at high risk of abusive treatment during their initial arrest and processing. Which is disturbing enough, given that 70% or more of them were apparently innocents swept up by mistake. And with no means for family members to get information about them, these innocents simply ended up being “disappeared” for weeks or months. But for those deemed to be “high value” detainees (i.e., those suspected of actually knowing something useful), abuse continued even after the transfer to the detention facility, with the military intelligence folks overseeing a process of “softening up” prisoners using the methods all of us (including impressionable 6-year-olds) are becoming all too familiar with lately.

This is the same sort of stuff that has been happening in our name at the extra-legal Gitmo detention center. It’s not an aberration. It’s policy. And the policy flows from the top.

Lambert from the aforementioned Corrente flirts with Godwin’s Law by pointing out the chilling similarities between the current situation and the Third Reich, in which it wasn’t necessary for Hitler to specifically order things like the gassing of Jews. He merely had to create the conditions in which underlings knew that actions like that 1) would produce the kind of results der fuhrer liked, and 2) would get the blind-eye treatment from superiors. After that, human nature took over. Anyway, see: Abu Ghraib torture: Hersch drops the other shoe.

No, the US is not the same as Nazi Germany, any more than the Iraq war is identical to Vietnam. We are still many steps short of that degree of evil. But that’s where this path leads.

Those of you who still support Bush, who are still inclined to vote for him in November, please think about this. How far down that path are you willing to travel? How many of our nation’s fundamental moral values are you willing to sacrifice in the name of partisanship? Because that is absolutely where we are headed. And the people running things willl not turn aside on their own. They think they’re doing a superb job, and that we owe them a debt of gratitude.

We owe them something. But it isn’t gratitude. Help deliver it at the polls in November.

4 Responses to “Marshall on the Red Cross Report”

  1. ymatt Says:

    I will go forth and deliver the stinging vote-slap.

  2. a_stupid_box Says:

    I just heard on PBR that most of the “abusers” in the report that was released were privately contracted security company personnel (read: Mercenaries). If this is lies from the right-wing media, I’m not surprised. If it’s the common knowledge, and nobody here (ESPECIALLY you, JBC) bothered to post it because of their own partisanship, I’m disgusted.

    Yes, Bush is bad. Yes, what’s being done is bad. But the ends don’t justify the means — this is exactly why the war and torture is WRONG. You can’t throw this all on the military just to get them out, then turn around and say, “Well, it wasn’t _ALL_ the military, but some of it was and now that they’re out it’s all good.”

    John, I’ve accused you of being less than objective on occasion. That’s fine, nobody really is all of the time. I’ve grown up reading your site for about a decade now and only mention it because I feel that you’d be interested. But if what I’ve heard is true, and you knew and didn’t bother to mention it, you’ve lost your biggest fan. I’m sorry, but to me that’s as big a lie of omission as anything the right wing has done and deserves to be mentioned front-page on your site.

    Say it isn’t so. Please.

  3. John Callender Says:

    I’m not sure I understand what it is you want me to deny.

    There are several “reports” that have been mentioned in media accounts of the Abu Ghraib abuses. There were the recommendations that Major General Miller made. There was the report that General Taguba made. There was the report by the International Committee of the Red Cross that was given to the Army a while back, and which the Wall Street Journal released a couple of days ago.

    As far as I know, the “six or seven” people that the Bush supporters are trying to say this is limited to are all uniformed Army personnel. These are the people being investigated and court-martialed and all that. There may well be other non-military contractors who have been abusing imprisoned Iraqis, but if so, I don’t think they’re featured in the photos that have been circulating so far.

    Since you know more about this report you heard than I do, why don’t you do some googling and see what specifics you can come up with, and post them in a comment here?

  4. a_stupid_box Says:

    http://www.npr.org/iraq/2004/prison_abuse_report.pdf

    It’s all there. This is the actual report that the right is spinning to sound “not so bad” and the left is spinning to sound like a second holocost.

    I can’t seem to find the interview with whomever it was on NPR, but if you look for CACI and Titan Corporation in the report you’ll find that they’re a damn large chunk of the Iraqi Abuse pie.

    “Security Companies” make up the second largest faction of forces (after the U.S.) in Iraq and don’t really seem to answer to anyone. I’m not saying they’re solely to blame for the abuses, but doesn’t it seem feasable that the soldiers WEREN’T abusing prisoners until they saw the security guys doing it?

    Can I get my “author” privledges now? I’m dying to bring to light a ton of stuff like this (plus it seems that only jbc and hossman bother to post anymore).

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