eyrequotes:   This post is full of nope. Not the image;…

Tuesday, April 29th, 2014



This post is full of nope. Not the image; that’s Tolkien. Quoting Tolkiengateway.net:

Not used in the original impression of The Hobbit, 1937, which included no coloured illustrations, this painting appeared in the second English impression of the same year, and in the first American edition, 1938. In the American edition the title ‘Rivendell’ within the decorative border was removed (on which J.R.R. Tolkien commented: ‘I cannot imagine why they have spilt the Rivendell picture by slicing the top and cutting out the ornament at the bottom’), but both reproductions carried the printed caption ‘The Fair Valley of Rivendell’ (‘Hidden somewhere ahead of us is the fair valley of Rivendell where Elrond lives in the Last Homely House’, Chapter 3, A Short Rest). The painting was reproduced in The J.R.R. Tolkien Calendars 1973 and 1974 and in The Hobbit Calendar 1976.

But the quote that’s been added above it… nope. I’m gonna channel my inner ibmiller for a second.

That’s not Tolkien. He never said it or wrote it. Or if he did, there’s no record I can find of him doing so, and certainly not within the text of the Hobbit, LOTR, or The Silmarillion.

That’s a line (with apologies to people who love it, and whose views on the subject are certainly just as valid as mine) that was written by some subset of Boyens/Jackson/Walsh as part of the screenwriting for the movie version of The Two Towers. And in fact (as discussed in the commentary track for the movie), it was written under intense time pressure, as they were struggling to come up with a satisfying ending for the movie, and in desperation finally crafted that speech for Sam, a speech that (again, with apologies to those for whom it works) always felt anti-climatic and vaguely lame to me.

Partly, I suspect, that’s because as a huge book nerd who spent his first few viewings of each of the movies helplessly cataloging every actual Tolkien quote, as part of obsessively noting every inclusion and departure from canon no matter how small, this line immediately jumped out at me and made me say, “That? You’re going to hang the big conclusion of your movie on that? It’s not even Tolkien!?”

So it just bothers the crap out of me to see the line attributed to Tolkien here. And I realize that’s just me, and it’s my problem, not your problem.

But just…


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