Benen on Global Warming Deniers in the Mainstream (Conservative) Press

I normally skip about half of Steve Benen’s articles at The Washington Monthly’s Political Animal blog; he’s a little too convinced of the rightness of his position for my taste, and suffers in comparison to Kevin Drum, who used to be the main blogger there. I still go there for Hilzoy, though, and once in a while Benen has an item I like. Like this one:  Deniers.

If the left and right disagreed on how best to address policy challenges, that would at least open the door to constructive dialog. But we’re still stuck in a political environment in which prominent conservative voices at high-profile conservative outlets a) don’t recognize the difference between climate and weather; b) find meaningless anecdotes compelling evidence of global trends; and c) are entirely comfortable delaying necessary solutions while an already-completed debate continues.

10 Responses to “Benen on Global Warming Deniers in the Mainstream (Conservative) Press”

  1. knarlyknight Says:

    yeah, those anecdotes about weather are funny, but this isn’t:

  2. shcb Says:

    We’re going to keep that one, that is just about as disingenuous as anything I’ve read in a long time, and he has the nerve to put a link to the original Hanson piece. I guess he figured “no one will read this, I’m trashing the right people, who would doubt me?” Well, me for one. I figured Hanson probably went into detail of all the scientific data that was available to make one skeptical, imagine my surprise realize he was just using his anecdotal stories to make fun of the True Believers using anecdotal evidence. But my favorite part was

    …while trying to continue an already-completed debate.

    Really? I don’t think the debate has even begun. Remember a few months ago when AlGore and Newt were in Washington to “debate” global warming but the rules of the debate didn’t even allow the two to be on the stage at the same time, AlGore just debated himself then left. I’ll tell you one thing; that is a good way to win every debate. I guess after you win enough of them that way you can say the debate is over, nothing left to discuss.

  3. shcb Says:

    You see Smith, this is why I don’t get too upset with people here giving me grief about my sources. (that wasn’t directed at you Knarly, good link.)

  4. knarlyknight Says:

    OT – advice shcb & any others in the peanut gallery please. I may be extending myself buying a big house in town quarter acre + lots revenue from suites & extra rooms, reasonable price for current market (lags USA, but stabilized by being a retirement community, net immigration and government town and university housing) – rental vacancy rate currently about zero percent), real estate market here has gone up 15% over past year (seasonal and consumer expectations). Just looking for random data from outsiders. Cheers.

    By the way, Ford Explorer died. Funeral was Friday. Got a MINT Disco II Rover at a steal of deal.

    Cheers, too much going on here to be online much


  5. shcb Says:

    Boy, good luck with that. I’ve never been a landlord so I don’t have any input there. A friend has had a dozen or so units at a time, he is down to 4 or 5 now. He got poor the old fashioned way, bought high and sold low, in between he spent every waking moment working on the damn things, replacing carpet, painting, etc. if the rentals are in your home that would be easier. Sounds like a fun adventure. I’m sure the marked and laws aren’t even close to America so I don’t know how much help I or my friend can be but be sure to ask if you have any questions. I know he has the eviction process down to a science now. You have to take a chance in life every now and then to get ahead but don’t overextend yourself too much and realize if all you do is break even on a small business you’ve done better than most.

  6. knarlyknight Says:

    Thanks, appreciate that. We have a suite in our current house & so I’m comfortable with tenant issues. The ‘buy high – sell low’ thing is exactly what’s worrying me; but unless interest rates shoot up & rents plummet we should be okay.

  7. knarlyknight Says:

    Back on Topic:

    shcb, here are some pretty pictures (no not that kind) :

  8. shcb Says:


    Happy 4th, all.

  9. enkidu Says:

    I watched the fourth of July parade in Steamboat Springs and there were two teabagger floats. I laughed loudly and pointed. Several members of the crowd also laughed along with me.

    After eight long years of failure, foulups and foolishness, we finally have something to celebrate.

    ps – Sarah Palin resigned part way thru her term. Also!

    pps – I hope she runs in 2012 (we could use the laughs)

  10. shcb Says:

    you might want to be careful, Steamboat is still a cowboy town, you aren’t in Aspen.

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