Friendly Atheist’s Gods We Don’t Believe In, and Obama’s God That He Does

Ymatt was kind enough to remind me of how awesome this speech on faith by Barack Obama (which I previously posted about back when he gave it, in 2006) was:

And in a tangentially related vein, Janus pointed out this from Friendly Atheist: Gods We Don’t Believe In.


31 Responses to “Friendly Atheist’s Gods We Don’t Believe In, and Obama’s God That He Does”

  1. knarlyknight Says:

    He speaks too slowly, content seemed good but then I dozed off.

    FYI – have fun (I didn’t realize I was such an Obama fan until I answered these questions) and if you do not like a question, just skip it…

  2. enkidu Says:

    sermon verrrrrry long…
    I am surprised the list of gods we do/don’t Believe in is so short…
    where is Arioch? Melkor?

    I took that quiz and it said Barak 10, Hillary 8, rwnjs -3

    and for our northern neighbors, here is part II of debunking the myths of Canadian Healthcare:

  3. knarlyknight Says:

    Your score on that quiz might have been higher if they’d asked any questions about drinkin and hunting critters from a moving pickup truck while towing a bound and gagged Islamo-fascist by the ankles.

    I’ll check out the Cdn healthcare item later this evening. Thx.

  4. shcb Says:

    I was 5 and 5 with everyone except Obama, 3 agree, 7 disagree does that make me a moderate?

  5. Steve Says:

    Some of those questions were just silly though. Everyone agrees that the government needs to spend less, for example.

  6. Steve Says:

    And the less spending question is misleading too. Spend less on what? Spend less on pork, military, education, healthcare, infrastructure, tax deductions, or law enforcement?

  7. shcb Says:

    You’re right Steve, exercises like that are for enjoyment only. I mean come on, acording to that test I’m as likely to vote for Hill as Huck, and I ain’t too fond of either.

  8. enkidu Says:

    ooooh Snarly is in a bad mood
    hey neighbor, did yall know we jes passed the 1 year anniversary of Cheney shootin an old man in the face while drunk.

    yeah that poll was kinda silly

  9. knarlyknight Says:

    silly never stopped me before… I was very surprised by my results (same as Enk’s results). That shows me I am not aware of where your candidates stand.

    YES, the questions were terrible. That is a result of needing to reflect the candidate positions in a brief manner.

    Also, there was no means to weight the importance of each issue. Also, a few more key questions were necessary.

    Fun while it lasted, and I am glad no one bit at my pickup question suggestion, then again we haven’t heard from y’all.

    Didn’t realize it was only the one year anniversary of the Cheney massacre, it’s been a long year. There wuz a news mention that he was soon to return to the site of his near fatal shooting for the first time, didn’t realize it was an annual event. Any guess as to who he will shoot this time?

  10. J.A.Y.S.O.N. Says:

    That was a damn good speech.

  11. shcb Says:

    Probably whoever gets in his way, wonder what Nancy P looks like in blaze orange?

  12. shcb Says:

    Here is a fun (for me) little tidbit off talk radio. It seems Hillary is considering (threatening) to sue the Democratic National Committee for the delegates from Florida and Michigan if the race is so close that those votes the Committee is not allowing at the present time will push her over the top. This case could go to the Supremes. The irony of this is precious.

  13. knarlyknight Says:


    Maybe it is due to my dislike for Billary, but I do not see the irony. Hillary’s threat to sue (if that’s what she’s done) is supremely and affectedly “precious” in an arrogant and ridiculous sort of way; but I fail to see the irony. Please enlighten me.

  14. enkidu Says:

    I think shcb is referring to the Supreme Court installing the current pretzelnitwit after the ’00 ‘election’.

    She should concentrate on winning OH, PA and TX. So far her superdelegate lead will give her the nomination – word is some of those superdelegates are wavering. If she loses more than one of those… I wish Obama could win OH and TX, but the *ahem* Canadian issue is too big a barrier (the color, not the country).

    What we need is Bill or Hill to do something stupid, only problem is they are very very smart people.

  15. shcb Says:


    Yes, I’m referring to the non-historically revisionist version of the event, the 2000 election. It’s just fun to see the lioness eating her own young with the same dirty tactics used against Bush. What I think is really cool is all the limited funds they are going to use fighting each other.

  16. knarlyknight Says:

    I see, thanks. My prediction is that she does not sue because the rules were set (FL delegates void), thus rational candidates did not seriously campaign in FL (i.e. Obama) nor did rational voters vote there, so the FL primary results are not representative of a fair election and therefore are not valid, thus Hillary has no chance of winning if she sues because no court would impose such an unfair election result. Oh, wait a sec, there is a precedent of that as Enk mentioned. Hmmm, since American courts are not necessarily interested in fair or valid but are more interested in blindly following procedures and laws, perhaps this has been Billary’s strategy (i.e. insurance policy) all along: make the other candidates think FL would not count, then get a court to make it count. That Billory are smart.

  17. shcb Says:

    Rehashing the 2000 election here isn’t very productive. The interesting precedent this could set is how much control does a political party have of itself. Is a political party like a club that can set it’s own rules about matters that can disenfranchise large voting blocks, or are primaries such a part of the process that they should be regulated by law. If the latter is the case then should state legislatures set dates of primaries or should federal lawmakers? If political parties don’t have the right to set their own rules in this matter, then what else?

    If the former is the case how far can they go? Can say a fringe party only count delegates from states that have laws sympathetic to their cause. Of course fringe parties usually don’t have the following to even have delegates, but it is something to consider.

    As always, the Clintons are about to screw with something for their own personal gain without regard for any consequences beyond the tips of their self absorbed noses.

  18. knarlyknight Says:

    Excellent questions and I agree with your latest post 100%.
    I think that is a first!

  19. shcb Says:

    thank you verry much, Elvis has left the building

  20. J.A.Y.S.O.N. Says:

    Did anyone else think that was a good speech?

  21. Sven Says:


  22. knarlyknight Says:

    I didn’t watch the whole speech but from what I saw I’m confident I can vote the (Jayson, Sven, etc.) party line this time, so:

    Yes, that was a damn good speech.

  23. shcb Says:

    I didn’t watch the whole thing either, just didn’t have time. I certainly didn’t have problem with the message of what he had to say in the 20 or so minutes I watched, but I wasn’t as impressed with his delivery as I thought I would be. I have never sat down and watched that much of one of his speeches, mostly sound bites. He seemed as though he couldn’t figure out if he wanted to read the speech or speak from the heart. Bush has this problem too. Obama can mask this flaw in style better than Bush because he has a more commanding voice. If Reagan and B Clinton are a 9 in delivering a presidential speech and G.W. is a 4, I would give this a 7.

    I think he brings up a good point that liberals (progressives) have a problem with being stereotyped as being un religious, as conservatives are tagged as religious zealots. As usual the stereotype is not without merit, but isn’t true of all and probably not even most members of either group. And I’m not sure there is a solution to the problem. Did he offer a solution to getting liberals to be perceived as more religious later in the speech?

    On a related note here is a piece on his wife’s gaff.

    One thing the left in our country has done in recent decades is trade in the love beads and the smoldering draft cards for American flags. “We love this country, too!” and “You have no monopoly on patriotism!” are their messages to those who point out their softness on fighting America’s enemies.

    But if you watch closely enough, every once in a while you catch a slip. It’s then that the real face of the “forces of change” is revealed, hearkening back to the days of anti-Vietnam War demonstrations filled with radicals ashamed of America.

  24. shcb Says:

    here’s a cute parody, go down a click or two to “Obama adds on the future”

  25. enkidu Says:

    nice propaganda – yet more crap from rush dimbulb

    If you want 4 more years of the same bullshit as the dumbya era then McLame is your man (btw – looks like he banged some cute blond lobbyist, that should get shcb’s motor runnin). Too bad blind partisanship has some people’s votes locked up for decades to come. Pathetic.

  26. shcb Says:

    you just can’t get your arms around the logic of a party line vote can you? did you read my last post on the Condi thread above?

  27. enkidu Says:

    I’ve been an independent my entire life. Party loyalty sounds like you are some sort of mindless robot commie. Only a moran puts party above country.

    But nothing I say will sway a dedicated rwnj.

  28. enkidu Says:

    and yes, I read your post in the Condi thread
    it didn’t make much sense to me
    as in… what is your point?

  29. shcb Says:

    Knarly asked the same thing, I’ve explained it a little better. Until you understand the process, you will never understand the logic.

  30. Cassandra Says:

    I am back, Yes it’s me again. Now don’t worry I’m not going to spew derogatory remarks,but I’m going to be very civil.

    I’ve been watching different shows, from “The View” to our very own…….”Fox News Channal.” Now I was very pleased to hear Joy on “TheView.” “Joy”stood up to Whoopi Goldberge” and that blonde. It was so cool to see her shut them both up. Because that blonde and Whoopi are always triing to talk down about Obama, and my girl “Joy” stopped them both in their tracks. “Joy” is a real down to earth person. I hope that she is for Obama. All down to earth people should vote for Obama. People who don’t approve of the “Dirty Politics.” Now Hillary has been doing nothing short of “S.T..” (shit-tossing). She seems to have no pride, she refues’, to simply, let the people have the canidate, that they want. Just because there were a few people who wanted a “woman ” in the White House. Now if I’m not mistaken ….. Wasn’t she already there? She had her chance. Speaking for myself. I say, if shes our, democratical canidate, I’m moving to the “Russia.” I see her as a woman scorned. Her husband found satisfaction in the arms of an other woman. Which was made public.
    Now for our very own “Fox News Channal.” I always have my T.V. set to their station. But in all honesty I can not stand that “Meg ” nor “Eddie” or any of those mean spirited blondes. What is up with that “Meg.” I’m just sayen she fills in for my guy “Colmes”, and now, she’s the vioce of criticism…. Ya, it doesn’t look good on her. It makes her mouth look really un-attractive. And what is it. Are they unable to get different people to talk about the “Presidental Canidates”? Because I am so tired of this “Juan Williams” and this “Mayor Nutter” if I wanted their oppion on making my choice for our “Presidental Canidate” I’d ask them,but since I don’t care to let other people make up my mind for me I will not listen to them. I see them as nothing more than “Hillary Clinton’s” personal “A.H.L.s” which stands for. Ass Hole Licker’s ) Mainly that “Juan Williams.” But these are simply my observations.
    Thank you for reading my comment today.

  31. Cassandra Says:

    Yes :I loved Obama’s speech…….. But I’m a little Bi-as. So hay! Yes I take a side order of “Obama Nation” with my meal. So I agree with you J.A.Y.S.O.N. And now I have watched this video of his, twice now, I love it.

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