Attributing Extreme Weather to AGW, Finding Common Ground (Or Not)
Another quick post to link to some interesting discussion that I’m not going to bother to write about in detail.
- Perception of Climate Change – James Hansen of NASA argues in a somewhat science-y way that yes, you really can attribute recent extreme weather events to climate change. This has annoyed the hell out of Roger Pielke, Jr., and Judith Curry. They probably have a point. But then, Hansen has a point, too. As with most grand debates-without-end, I suspect a lot of arguing past each other is going on here.
- Icy Relations: Extreme-Weather Question Drives Wedge Between Climate Scientists – Keith Kloor writing in Discover magazine. Kloor takes note of the emerging lack of consensus among climate scientists about how to view the Hansen paper linked to above.
- Climate of Failure – Speaking of arguing past each other, here’s more of Pielke, Jr., writing in Foreign Policy and doing his best to bridge the divide and talk about those aspects of the current situation with the climate that both sides should be willing to agree upon. “Should” being the operative word there. Reminder to me: Really need to get around to reading The Climate Fix.
And now, back to our regularly scheduled beating each other up in the comments, already in progress.
August 11th, 2012 at 6:15 am
The fun part is this isn’t like a real beating where one guy or the other gets a good punch in and the fight is over, this is a Hollywood, Bruce Willis, end of the movie, smack the the other guy with a baseball bat and he gets up and smacks you with a chair, forever and ever, damn I’m out of popcorn, do you want something sweety, I’ll be right back, the beating is still going on when the popcorn is half done fight.
August 20th, 2012 at 12:37 pm
I may have been a little too hard on Muller, Watts had some comments and a link to a recent interview Muller gave, while I still disagree with him that we are causing all the warming, at least we seem to agree the high priests of AGW are basically crooks and liars. Now that doesn’t mean there aren’t some good folks doing some good work on the problem but the high priests are whipping the masses into a frenzy of poor decision making, and a public that doesn’t trust the high priests, justifiably, and the good folk scientists unjustifiably, so sad.
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2012/08/09/a-fascinating-new-interview-with-prof-richard-muller-quote-on-climategate-what-they-did-was-i-think-shameful-and-it-was-scientific-malpractice/#more-68702