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	<description>believe nothing...</description>
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		<title>By: shcb</title>
		<link>http://www.lies.com/wp/2010/06/12/measure-j-defeated/#comment-201816</link>
		<dc:creator>shcb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jun 2010 12:26:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Too bad you&#039;re only going to have 4 (maybe 2?) years</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Too bad you&#8217;re only going to have 4 (maybe 2?) years</p>
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		<title>By: enkidu</title>
		<link>http://www.lies.com/wp/2010/06/12/measure-j-defeated/#comment-201788</link>
		<dc:creator>enkidu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jun 2010 22:57:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>wwnj - PSA is more accurate than the DRE, but if you think it&#039;ll be fun or finally find your missing cerebellum, then you go girl

Just keep blaming Obama for everything!  Reasonable people know that it&#039;ll take at least a decade to undo all the damage form the gwb years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wwnj &#8211; PSA is more accurate than the DRE, but if you think it&#8217;ll be fun or finally find your missing cerebellum, then you go girl</p>
<p>Just keep blaming Obama for everything!  Reasonable people know that it&#8217;ll take at least a decade to undo all the damage form the gwb years.</p>
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		<title>By: knarlyknight</title>
		<link>http://www.lies.com/wp/2010/06/12/measure-j-defeated/#comment-201519</link>
		<dc:creator>knarlyknight</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jun 2010 19:16:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LOL.  Careful comparing yourself to a crack whore shcb, others might not see things the way that you do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LOL.  Careful comparing yourself to a crack whore shcb, others might not see things the way that you do.</p>
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		<title>By: shcb</title>
		<link>http://www.lies.com/wp/2010/06/12/measure-j-defeated/#comment-201517</link>
		<dc:creator>shcb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jun 2010 18:11:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Goody for you, you do live in a country with socialized medicine, only you are moving back to private insurance, I wonder if you can get a prostate exam without supplemental insurance? My point through this whole debate isn’t that medical care will go away it is that we will either get less care or pay more for comparable care. He didn’t deny me the exam, it didn’t cost me anything, the insurance paid for it, he is just setting the stage for next year. If I were to buy the BS he has obviously bought he would hope I will say that I really don’t think I need an exam. In a few years the government will say that there are fewer and fewer men getting these exams and since the government is the sole provider with no competition there is no need to get this exam. They will say, as my doctor did, that is in effect the duty of those 2% do die with dignity at 50 or 60 so others can have care. Then folks like me will either pay out of pocket for something that is included now or we will have supplemental insurance even though we are paying more than we are now with our taxes, we’ll either pay more or get less, and for damn sure a good portion of that 2% will die needlessly, but a crack whore will have insurance, lovely.   

For as long as I can remember the prostate exam was the most important part of the physical since early detection was the best way to survive, but money seems to be more important now. We are seeing the same with women’s screening as well, they have added 10 years to the recommended age for examinations. Reminds me of McNamara’s bullet to body count in Vietnam. Funny how the liberal mantra of “if it only saves one life wouldn’t it be worth it” goes out the window with government expansion and socialism.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Goody for you, you do live in a country with socialized medicine, only you are moving back to private insurance, I wonder if you can get a prostate exam without supplemental insurance? My point through this whole debate isn’t that medical care will go away it is that we will either get less care or pay more for comparable care. He didn’t deny me the exam, it didn’t cost me anything, the insurance paid for it, he is just setting the stage for next year. If I were to buy the BS he has obviously bought he would hope I will say that I really don’t think I need an exam. In a few years the government will say that there are fewer and fewer men getting these exams and since the government is the sole provider with no competition there is no need to get this exam. They will say, as my doctor did, that is in effect the duty of those 2% do die with dignity at 50 or 60 so others can have care. Then folks like me will either pay out of pocket for something that is included now or we will have supplemental insurance even though we are paying more than we are now with our taxes, we’ll either pay more or get less, and for damn sure a good portion of that 2% will die needlessly, but a crack whore will have insurance, lovely.   </p>
<p>For as long as I can remember the prostate exam was the most important part of the physical since early detection was the best way to survive, but money seems to be more important now. We are seeing the same with women’s screening as well, they have added 10 years to the recommended age for examinations. Reminds me of McNamara’s bullet to body count in Vietnam. Funny how the liberal mantra of “if it only saves one life wouldn’t it be worth it” goes out the window with government expansion and socialism.</p>
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		<title>By: knarlyknight</title>
		<link>http://www.lies.com/wp/2010/06/12/measure-j-defeated/#comment-201512</link>
		<dc:creator>knarlyknight</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jun 2010 16:51:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;re killing me, shcb.   I&#039;d respond but it would be like shooting ducks in a barrel.  

btw, Canadians men get routine prostate exams so that must mean we aren&#039;t a socialized couintry.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re killing me, shcb.   I&#8217;d respond but it would be like shooting ducks in a barrel.  </p>
<p>btw, Canadians men get routine prostate exams so that must mean we aren&#8217;t a socialized couintry.</p>
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		<title>By: shcb</title>
		<link>http://www.lies.com/wp/2010/06/12/measure-j-defeated/#comment-201462</link>
		<dc:creator>shcb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jun 2010 02:46:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well I got my first taste of socialized medicine today, I can now say with some authority it is going to be a wonderful worker’s paradise we will live in comrades, long live the state. We are going to kill people so a few can have the same half assed care the rest of us are going to get. I went in for my annual physical and my doctor spent 5 minutes explaining that they have decided that they shouldn’t do prostate exams anymore since they only have about a 2% success rate treating it if it is particularly aggressive and so they are treating 98% of the people that will die anyway. Why should we pay for all that when we can just let them (the 98% and the 2%) die. As far as I could tell this was with one study. He said they have stopped doing the exams in the socialized countries already. So they are ahead of us in killing people with medicine, goody. By the way, I told him to get a glove on and get out the KY Jelly and stick his finger up my ass. Fuck Obama and the other socialist pricks, I want my 2%.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well I got my first taste of socialized medicine today, I can now say with some authority it is going to be a wonderful worker’s paradise we will live in comrades, long live the state. We are going to kill people so a few can have the same half assed care the rest of us are going to get. I went in for my annual physical and my doctor spent 5 minutes explaining that they have decided that they shouldn’t do prostate exams anymore since they only have about a 2% success rate treating it if it is particularly aggressive and so they are treating 98% of the people that will die anyway. Why should we pay for all that when we can just let them (the 98% and the 2%) die. As far as I could tell this was with one study. He said they have stopped doing the exams in the socialized countries already. So they are ahead of us in killing people with medicine, goody. By the way, I told him to get a glove on and get out the KY Jelly and stick his finger up my ass. Fuck Obama and the other socialist pricks, I want my 2%.</p>
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		<title>By: shcb</title>
		<link>http://www.lies.com/wp/2010/06/12/measure-j-defeated/#comment-201228</link>
		<dc:creator>shcb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jun 2010 13:10:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I read it again, Leyne is sprinkling his opinions, the opinions and beliefs of those of a like mind with official positions in such a way it seems there is more there than there is. But there isn’t much in this article other than the investigation is being reopened because of political pressure. Understand I don’t care, if the Mounties were wrong and committed criminal acts fine, toss them in jail, if they were justified and the poor man was just a crazy man with a bad ticker, well, sorry, he died. Let the Mounties get on with their lives.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I read it again, Leyne is sprinkling his opinions, the opinions and beliefs of those of a like mind with official positions in such a way it seems there is more there than there is. But there isn’t much in this article other than the investigation is being reopened because of political pressure. Understand I don’t care, if the Mounties were wrong and committed criminal acts fine, toss them in jail, if they were justified and the poor man was just a crazy man with a bad ticker, well, sorry, he died. Let the Mounties get on with their lives.</p>
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		<title>By: knarlyknight</title>
		<link>http://www.lies.com/wp/2010/06/12/measure-j-defeated/#comment-201219</link>
		<dc:creator>knarlyknight</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jun 2010 07:57:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LOL, no.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LOL, no.</p>
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		<title>By: shcb</title>
		<link>http://www.lies.com/wp/2010/06/12/measure-j-defeated/#comment-201207</link>
		<dc:creator>shcb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jun 2010 23:50:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It seems to me all they are saying is they are going to reopen the case because of political pressure, am I reading that right?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It seems to me all they are saying is they are going to reopen the case because of political pressure, am I reading that right?</p>
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		<title>By: knarlyknight</title>
		<link>http://www.lies.com/wp/2010/06/12/measure-j-defeated/#comment-201201</link>
		<dc:creator>knarlyknight</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jun 2010 16:47:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JBC, I read this when you posted it and had no comment except bravo!

On another topic, I wanted to provide a Final update about an incident we discussed at length last year: Death by Tazering of a confused Polish immigrant at Vancouver&#039;s airport.  Why the update?  Because after a full public inquiry it has been determined that my initial assessment was correct and shcb&#039;s support for the excessively combative authoritarian actions was completely wrong:  http://www.timescolonist.com/news/Leyne+Dziekanski+case+thought/3176142/story.html

At least the people in Canada still expect to be treated with respect by the police forces they employ.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JBC, I read this when you posted it and had no comment except bravo!</p>
<p>On another topic, I wanted to provide a Final update about an incident we discussed at length last year: Death by Tazering of a confused Polish immigrant at Vancouver&#8217;s airport.  Why the update?  Because after a full public inquiry it has been determined that my initial assessment was correct and shcb&#8217;s support for the excessively combative authoritarian actions was completely wrong:  <a href="http://www.timescolonist.com/news/Leyne+Dziekanski+case+thought/3176142/story.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.timescolonist.com/news/Leyne+Dziekanski+case+thought/3176142/story.html</a></p>
<p>At least the people in Canada still expect to be treated with respect by the police forces they employ.</p>
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		<title>By: shcb</title>
		<link>http://www.lies.com/wp/2010/06/12/measure-j-defeated/#comment-200921</link>
		<dc:creator>shcb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jun 2010 14:03:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Timing is everything in politics. Glad you did so well. The story reminds me of the movie “Welcome to Mooseport” a funny movie but the lesson is the same, trust those you know first. 

We won this month as well, a bill was signed into law that should start to rein in out of control HOAs, Tuesday is my night on the stage to announce it to our council since they are woefully ignorant of anything that goes on outside their little club, should be fun.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Timing is everything in politics. Glad you did so well. The story reminds me of the movie “Welcome to Mooseport” a funny movie but the lesson is the same, trust those you know first. </p>
<p>We won this month as well, a bill was signed into law that should start to rein in out of control HOAs, Tuesday is my night on the stage to announce it to our council since they are woefully ignorant of anything that goes on outside their little club, should be fun.</p>
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