Fox News Says Something Fair and Balanced
From the “Man Bites Dog” department:
I’m (obviously) not much of a Fox News watcher. Those of you who are: Is this typical behavior for Shepard Smith?
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May 5th, 2009 at 6:21 am
I’ve seen clips of Shepard Smith standing firm on some basic principles before. He’s very angry about torture too.
It’s not that all conservatives are insane, it’s just that the majority of sane conservatives have been blackballed by the RWNJ clique that runs the Republican party.
May 5th, 2009 at 9:31 am
Yes, he’s like that.
May 5th, 2009 at 12:43 pm
There’s a few videos of Shepard Smith going nuts about torture that were making the rounds on reddit a couple weeks ago.
Let me see if I can find a couple:
http://thisweekwithbarackobama.blogspot.com/2009/04/we-dont-fucking-torture-from-shepard.html
May 6th, 2009 at 4:36 am
That is pretty much Shepherd Smith. I don’t watch his show much, it’s on at the wrong time for my schedule and it is a little too much of an Entertainment Tonight format for my taste. I don’t know if Shep is conservative or liberal, I always assumed he was somewhat liberal since he thinks with his emotions, this was most evident during his Katrina reporting.
So let me get this straight, the right wing and Fox news in particular are sooo biased and keep any dissenting voice from being heard and yet here we have a definite liberal and an emotionally charged host (who has been on Fox as long I can remember) against one lowly conservative. Of course to have made it a fair fight you would have had to have put a couple more Fox liberals into the fight, say Greta and Rivera, to make it fight against May.
Since we are talking fair and balanced, why did the editors of this film strip cut so much of May’s comments? So we have these stories of teachers in public schools berating students for watching Fox News, congress talking about the fairness doctrine, and selective editing on Lies.com and conservatives are the censurers?
May 6th, 2009 at 4:38 am
…to make it fair against May
May 6th, 2009 at 10:45 am
shcb,
If I recall correctly you were relying heavily on Fox and other wrong wing sources in vehemently defending Israeli rights to fire on the UN school in Gaza. Are they now apologizing for parroting mis-statements from the IDF about the incident with proper vetting and disclaimers? Thought not.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/05/05/AR2009050503453.html
Just file the following excerpt from that article as one more thing you won’t see on Fox:
May 6th, 2009 at 10:46 am
not “with proper vetting…” rather have been “without proper vetting…”
May 6th, 2009 at 12:15 pm
So what does this have to do with Fox? Were they not accurately reporting the story at the time?
May 6th, 2009 at 2:20 pm
Oh, sorry I was stretching the Fox angle, the point is not so much to do with Fox in particular as it has to do with YOUR information sources being WHACKED.
May 6th, 2009 at 2:38 pm
the GOP image makeover is really hitting its stride!
http://www.flickr.com/photos/30835791@N07/sets/72157614241935013/
May 6th, 2009 at 3:32 pm
Are you sure it is my sources or my take on those sources? I’m not being coy here, I think it is an interesting tangent. A source like Fox with a pro American, pro Israel bias may give an accurate account saying the IDF said they were being shot at from the school and the Palestinians say they weren’t, another group with a, less pro American/Israel bias, say Reuters, gives the same information but changes the order or who said what or gives more importance to one side or the other. Neither is less accurate than the other, just biased. Enter the third party, me or you. We put our own spin and emphasis on the story, mix in something else we have heard or read and suddenly the news agency is at fault. I try very hard to always separate my criticisms of either you guys or the story we are discussing, sometimes I fail. I don’t think you guys really try very hard to separate those things. We see right here that JBC doesn’t even know that Shep exists or how much he agrees with Shep on a daily basis, he has the Walter Cronkite time slot for Christ’s sake. And yet JBC thinks Fox is total garbage and completely one sided. Does NBC or CBS have a conservative as Juan Williams is a liberal on their shows on a regular basis? Do they have a conservative anchor to the degree that Shepherd Smith is a liberal? It’s not a perfect world but Fox does a better job of mixing it up than the other networks.
May 7th, 2009 at 7:47 am
So people who are against torture, unjustified invasions, etc. are not ‘pro American’?
Wow, you’ve really learned nothing from your electoral beatings have you?
Great, keep it up.
May 7th, 2009 at 8:16 am
They may or may not be pro or anti American, those items really don’t have anything to do with being pro or anti American. The people who are anti American were before the events you are describing took place.
May 7th, 2009 at 8:41 am
shcb seems to be saying that committing torture and invading soveriegn nations without proper justification is NOT anathema to American values.
Makes me wonder what all the World War II fuss was about, shcb sounds like he’d have been just as happy to have had a National Socialist German Workers’ Party or Emperor Hirohito in charge rather than the Bush administration. I guess there wasn’t that much of a difference.
May 7th, 2009 at 9:11 am
“Pro-American” conduct per shcb:
May 7th, 2009 at 10:19 am
I don’t see that I said anything like that but it won’t matter, you’ll go on and on like I did.
May 7th, 2009 at 10:45 am
this is kind of interesting
http://pajamasmedia.com/ronradosh/2009/05/06/hitchens-and-torture-in-britain-what-took-place-during-the-war/
May 7th, 2009 at 11:31 am
what… another pantload media link?
typical wwnj propaganda
Torture is your friend!
Torture is good for you!
Even our allies did it in WWII!
If the President does it, it’s not illegal!
rubbish
Just keep digging that hole deeper and in no time you GOOPers will be at 5%
Heck of a job lil ricki!
May 7th, 2009 at 3:54 pm
I’m shocked! I thought you guys would be all over this. The president lying to the American people on TV of all places. I thought the Lies.com manifesto was to ferret out lying politicians no mater their stripes. I figured all you comrades that have been independent voters all your lives wouldn’t stand for a lying Democrat any more than a lying Republican. Let’s hear some outrage!
May 7th, 2009 at 5:26 pm
Yea shcb, you and Mr. Pyjamas have done a great job of demonstrating that a president should not quote Churchill: Churchill’s words just can’t be trusted.
However, this cabby, well, his words are shocking (especially at the end when he thinks the camera is off…)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3GHM5f9lVho
May 8th, 2009 at 5:08 am
Here is an interview with Cliff and John Stewart. This is the uncut version so it is fairly long, if you don’t watch the whole thing at least watch the last couple minutes. Cliff said that he really enjoyed this interview, even though he knew he was going into the belly of the beast. He even said he would go on Stewart’s show again. If your delicate sensibilities won’t allow you to go to Cliff’s site, he said Stewart has it on his site as well.
http://blog.indecisionforever.com/2009/04/29/jon-stewarts-extended-interview-with-cliff-may/
May 8th, 2009 at 7:10 am
OK, I’ll play.
So you link to a hard right opinion source.
In the article (btw – I bet you didn’t read it, of course, why start now, eh?) they describe the British WWII interrogation methods. The official sanctioned interrogation methods worked very well indeed. No torture, just patient questioning, and little or no coercive treatment. The article also insinuates, but doesn’t in any way back up, the allegations that some bad stuff took place at another location in England. Since the detention center had spies in it, the red cross wasn’t allowed in and official records are murky or debatable at best. They might have used (cue dramatic music!) sleep deprivation… and… chores!
The article quotes one journalist who calls it “systematic ill-treatment” and a “torture centre”. Well, since they don’t link to the use of those quotes, one can almost guarantee that they were taken out of context. Then it makes the laughable assumption that Christopher Hitchens (drunk) certainly does know about both internment camps. Errrr, how in the world do they know that Hitch knows that? Talk about a leap of faith, an a priori position that must be buttressed with bullshit.
Look il ricki, I know you think you are a smart and wise old white father jes like the foundin fathers (sorry threw up in my mouth a bit there), but you just can’t tell the difference between state sanctioned torture (you know the er, Nazis? dumbya) and state sanctioned interrogation (the Brits, the US pre-dumbya junta). If Bill Clinton had done these things, you would be bellowing your death threats and dumbfuckery from the rooftops.
You folks need to sit down, stfu and take your lumps. Then come back with the principles you cast aside so willingly so long ago. Then maybe you’ll grow the party. Personally I think you idiots are done. As in done it to yourselves.
Good riddance.
May 8th, 2009 at 8:14 am
Why would I be commenting on it if I hadn’t read it? You’ve missed the whole point of the article and my tongue in cheek comment, the President made a big deal out of England not torturing people, if this story is true, they did, at least by the definition of torture you guys are using. And then Hitchens is using the same arguments. Nothing more.
May 8th, 2009 at 9:16 am
If it is true, but since you take any hard right source as gospel, you don’t bother to check, there aren’t any links or references, just a bunch of wwnj opinion. You aren’t even bothering to ‘debate’ where those techniques are torture. It is a pretty well established fact that we tortured Bad Guys under gwb, even wwnjs can’t torture logic so as to make it just some light hazing or hijinx. It is torture. Now decide if you want to uphold the Law or if your partisan ends should trump any other consideration (I think we all know the answer, whether you admit it or not)
Look lil ricki, I know how bad you wwnjs want to slam Obama (for example Hannity’s screed about how Obama put mustard on a hamburger!?!?!?! talk about partisan bullshit), but I really think the Rs would have a better chance of recovering and returning to your principals (ha!) if extremist nutbags like you would just shut the fuck up for a few years. Seriously, you are doing way more harm than good.
Oh and for a head shaking mind numbing laugh, check out Hanutty’s “Tree of Liberty” schtick. Right. We’re left with “the collective crate of Socialism…” lol
http://www.colbertnation.com/the-colbert-report-videos/226993/may-07-2009/sean-hannity-s-liberty-tree
transcript
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,519158,00.html
kerplop! (see ya know fox is a lying buncha bastages since they done left out the kerplop! ;-)
ps – did you know that many wwnjs think Colbert is a real conservative? rather than a comedian making fun of a know nothing conservative pundit? Yes, ladies and gentlemen, many conservatives really are… well… morans. Facts is so darn liberal!
May 8th, 2009 at 10:52 am
Hey enk:
Here’s a great recipe for Deviled Eggs!
12 large eggs, boiled hard and peeled 1 Tbsp (plus) soft butter 1 Tbsp (plus) mayonnaise 1 Tbsp Dijon mustard 1/2 tsp Yucatan Sunshine Habanero sauce Salt to taste…
I can’t the credit for it though, I actually stole the recipe from here:
http://georgewbush-whitehouse.archives.gov/independenceday/2004/recipes.html
LOL, Hannity is such an idiot.
May 8th, 2009 at 1:20 pm
lol, brilliant!
those deviled eggs will be delicious with my FREEDOM FRIES!!1!!!1!!
I never put ketchup on burgers or brats, either yeller mustard or that fancy socialist kind, mmm hmm.
I like my fries with aioli sauce (mayo with garlic, roasted and/or raw) Spanish style (ze French add their socialist condiment to the mix, zoot alore!)
May 11th, 2009 at 7:16 pm
So, did anyone watch the Stewart /May piece
May 12th, 2009 at 12:03 pm
I watched it when it aired, watched the unedited show when it was available (next day? day after?) Watched it again this AM… your point?
shcb you must feel Mr May is quite the pansy: he *says* he is against torture!!!
But doesn’t want anyone to talk about it, doesn’t want prosecutions (neither does JS) and wants to pretend this is an episode of 24 and we are the Good Guys.
I love how many times he pretends Jon holds ridiculous extreme positions. Strawman much?
wwnjs: any means, any method
normal Americans: we have morals and ideals
May 12th, 2009 at 12:10 pm
ooops
that should be
wwnj: any means, any end
(he’s the President! OBEY! except when it’s a D pres, then make lots of jokes about lynchings, secession, armed rebellion and various ill-informed comparisons to fascists and communists. All the while ignoring the enormous mess the R pres made of it and dodging any and all responsibility).
May 13th, 2009 at 9:25 am
I actually had my girlfriend make some of “Georeg and Laura’s Potatoe Salad” this past weekend for a Mother’s Day b-b-q and it was actually really good! The dijion made all the difference…
May 14th, 2009 at 2:51 pm
“What Cheney and everyone forgets is that, after the 1993 World Trade Center Bombings, there were no further attacks on American soil. About 7 yrs. No water boarding necessary…”
May 15th, 2009 at 2:09 pm
Uss Cole
Kohbar Towers
US Embassy Attacks
Bali Nightclub Attacks…………………
May 16th, 2009 at 3:29 pm
….and there was a little ruckus in NYC in the fall of 2001, but that wasn’t a big deal