What is just as interesting, however, is what I describe as McCain’s emotional reactivity. What I’m referring to is not just the intensity of the response but also its speed, and how much that, too, differs from the crowd’s.

What I mean is, if you study the other people in the photo, what you encounter are emotional reactions that are more complex and nuanced. If you had to generalize, you could say they combine at least two different attributes, the first being approval and pleasure over what’s happening on the field, but second, and the more prevalent one, a more open-ended curiosity, inquisitiveness and concern for what continues to unfold in front of them.

What scares me about McCain is not just the intensity of his emotions, but how their escalation is often based on snap- emotionally-based reactions to situations that are inherently more enduring and complicated.

Taking the picture as a modeling exercise, I’d feel a whole lot safer with a Commander-in-Chief more representative of the guy in the Hawaiian-looking shirt, the man in the red shirt, the lady in the turquoise and the white-haired guy to her right. What you get in that package is a candidate with more awareness in the moment; more feeling informed by thought; more sustained attention; greater inquisitiveness; and more recognition of a larger picture.

But what about these peanuts? www.rense.com/general81/mcci.htm ?

Give you a secret that I happened upon by accident, when you’re making fried chicken, use parmesan cheese for about a quarter to a third of the flour mixture, mmmm.

I like the idea of the bean teepee - have to work on that for next year (treehouse eating up too much free time and the porch isn’t in for the summer, so I’d better get crackin)

We planted a pear tree where the kids could pick the fruit from the treehouse porch (give it a year or two). The lemon and lime trees are incredible.

Last year I converted a 10′x20′portion of my back lawn to a raised bed. A few rows of Romaine, garlic & chives, a broad bean teepee set up for my little girl to play inside, a couple of broccoli and a half dozen overgrown Swiss Chard left over from last year. It is time to plant tomatoes this weekend but am running out of space so they’ll go in pots. I have to build my garden like a fortress to keep our 4 dogs out. Also have a small (15′) and a medium-large (25′?) cherry tree, but the crows usually feast on them before they are fully ripe. Hey, all that sounds pretty nice, I aught to appreciate it more instetad of focusing on thoughts like: if I had to grow our own food we’d all starve.

Sad that we pay high prices for fruits and veggies all year except at harvest time. Supply and demand. If it wasn’t for the therapy benefits of growing food I might not bother. Simplicity in gardening for me too, otherwise I’d have no time to correct your erroneous posts here. Have great day / weekend.

Other than the usual veggies, this year I put in some raspberries and replaced an overgrown cedar tree with a few bunches of blueberries. It’s micro gardening, I wish I had more land (damn city life.)

The “what if Germany had won the war” was a tiny red herring in a huge school of bigger fish: and you went for it. (This also illustrates your inability to discriminate between relevant and trivial comments.)

So you bite into the “what if” theme, hook, line and sinker.

Enkidu ridicules you for that big red herring in your teeth but also brings the discussion back to the facts (his full unedited post below):

enkidu Says:
May 7th, 2008 at 7:01 am
I love how the jujistu of rwnj thinking paints this as just one big bundle of “what ifs” no biggee!

There seem to be some facts in play here rwnj:

Prescott Bush was a director of a bank that backed Hitler (right up until ‘42 evidently [a word derived from the word “evidence”])

Prescott was also mixed up in a plot to overthrow FDR (by violent terroristic means if necessary)

Unfortunately you cannot see past the bleeding red herring flapping in front of your fish eyes, so you are unable to comprehend that the comment “Enk, you are totally on target…” relates to the facts he presented and not the red herring that shcb is struggling so hard with.

So the straw man you constructed is that our logic is flawed, when it is your ability to discern that is flawed.

shcb, hows the spring planting going? What are you growing?

Knarly said

What if the Nazi’s won the war, would they have done the same thing or would they have added a little bonus?

This was my response

If we’re going to deal with what ifs (if Germany had won the war) what if we had not gone to war with Germany, they didn’t attack us, we really don’t need a Jewish population, and wouldn’t geography be so much simpler without all those imaginary lines dividing up Europe. One big area marked “Germany” would be so much simpler.

This yielded

I love how the jujistu of rwnj thinking paints this as just one big bundle of “what ifs” no biggee!

And

Enk, you are totally on target. “What if” shcb had a brain? Then he wouldn’t have to live in the Land of Oz.

So the answer, Fritz was in prison, so I would think Hitler probably wouldn’t have been kind to his American partners once Adolf was on this side of the pond, I doubt there would have been much reward for Bush, maybe the same fate as ole Fritz. I try and maintain a reasonable debate, I enjoy a reasonable debate, but with logic like this that is impossible.

So here’s my favourite live horse, Dana Perino, answering a recent 911 related question.

It would have been better if her answer held some forthright honesty for a change rather than such strained evasiveness and highly patronizing dismissiveness.

I would apologize on her behalf, but as she is speaking on behalf of the GOP’rs she probably could not have answered in any other way. Poor Dana.

The clip: www.youtube.com/watch?v=GeVX5zt8wEk

And here is the reporter’s follow-up to Dana:
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Dana,

Thank you for the suggestion of checking my sources. If you take the time to read those articles, you will see that both sides of the aisle had issues with the way the Bush Administration dealt with the investigations of 9/11. Also, the people that were most affected by that day also had several issues with their conduct as well. With regard to your predecessors Ari Fleischer, Scott McClellan, and Tony Snow, if you could set up interviews for me with each of them, I would be more than happy to discuss this information. However, with regard to the last article cited in this video clip entitled, “9/11 - the big cover-up?”, it is from September 2007, so I would also like to request another interview with you when you have the time. The recent news concerning Philip Zelikow from NYTimes Reporter Phil Shenon, to quote the September 11th Advocates, brings into question “the veracity of the entire Commission’s report.” It also resulted in them calling for an entirely new investigation. In fact, that is the only article cited in this video that is not considered “mainstream”. The reason for this is because what is considered “mainstream”, did not bother to cover their request. This is not spin. This is a request by those most affected by that day to finally learn the who, how, and why of 9/11 so they can have some much deserved justice and solace.

It is true, we have not been attacked since September 11th, 2001, and thank God for that. However, as a result of that day, we have started two wars that are still going on, and thousands have been killed. We have changed our entire way of life here in America in the name of “Security”. If that day is not what we were led to believe, then we need to know about it, and we need to know about it now.I hope this letter finds you in good spirits, as well as in good health. I also look forward to our next interview.

Regards,
Justin Martell

shrubbie’s gran pappy and his links to/support of hitler’s rise to power and a “Business Plot” to overthrow FDR are “silly”? Well how about you refute these facts if they are so silly? You can’t, they are part of the historical record.

Or perhaps you think it is “silly” that Darth Cheney’s company (that he still profits from btw) KBR is electrocuting soldiers with their shoddy work and ‘ah fuck it’ attitude? You must not support the troops. All that matters to you is your partisanship: if it reflects poorly on the Gormy Olde Pedophiles, by golly it is just silly lies and froofrahhumdingermajiggy.

Despite Alert, Flawed Wiring Still Kills G.I.’s

The Defense Contract Management Agency, which is responsible for supervising maintenance work by contractors at American bases in Iraq, defended its performance. In a written statement, the agency said it had no information that staff members “were aware” of the Army alert or “failed to take appropriate action in response to unsafe conditions brought to our attention.”

Keith Ernst, who stepped down Wednesday as the agency’s director, said, though, that the agency was “stretched too thin” in Iraq and that the small number of contract officers did not have expertise in dealing with so-called life support contracts, like that awarded to KBR to provide food, shelter and building maintenance. “We don’t have the technical capability for overseeing life support systems,” he said.

For its part, KBR, which until last year was known as Kellogg, Brown and Root and was a subsidiary of Halliburton, denied that any lapses by the company had led to the electrocutions of American soldiers. “KBR’s commitment to employee safety and the safety of those the company serves is unwavering,” said a spokeswoman, Heather Browne. “KBR has found no evidence of a link between the work it has been tasked to perform and the reported electrocutions.”

Ms. Browne declined to respond to the specific accounts of former KBR electricians.

Those electricians have a ready response to anyone who suggests that poor electrical work might be considered an unavoidable cost of war. “The excuse KBR always used was, ‘This is a war zone — what do you expect?’ ” recalled Jeffrey Bliss, an Ohio electrician who worked for the company in Afghanistan in 2005 and 2006. “But if you are going to do the work, you have got to do it safe.”

Since the United States invaded Iraq in 2003, tens of thousands of American troops have been housed in pre-existing Iraqi government buildings, some of them dangerously dilapidated. As part of its $30 billion contract with the Pentagon in Iraq, KBR was required to repair and upgrade many of the buildings, including their electrical systems. The company handles maintenance for 4,000 structures and 35,000 containerized housing units in the war zone, the Pentagon said.

Lawmakers and government investigators say it is now clear that the Bush administration outsourced so much work to KBR and other contractors in Iraq that the agencies charged with oversight have been overwhelmed. The Defense Contracting Management Agency has more than 9,000 employees, but it has only 60 contract officers in Iraq and 30 in Afghanistan to supervise nearly 18,000 KBR employees in Iraq and 4,400 in Afghanistan handling base maintenance.

“All the contract officers can do is check the paperwork,” said one agency official, who asked not to be identified. While about 600 military officers supplement the contract officers, Mr. Ernst said, the soldiers are not adequately trained for the task.

Frm: www.nytimes.com/2008/05/04/world/middleeast/04electrocute.html?_r=1&oref=slogin

hmmm.