You know Enky, I’m going to have to give you this one. Not because I retract anything I said, but you made some accurate points, mostly you are correct. The primary reason I I’m conceding is because I could not in good conscience engage in the proper level of schadenfreude without giving this one to you.
Rush is doing everything you say and so much more. He doesn’t care whether Hillary or Obama win, he doesn’t much care for McCain for that matter. He only cares that they both stay in the race until the convention. They spend the summer beating each other up, they spend tons of money and the media is covering them and not trashing McCain. We (R’s) don’t have much of a chance winning this election, but this is helping.

This whole thing is so precious on so many levels. These last primaries would be more or less moot without the super delegates. Now the super delegates are the Democrat’s version of the Electoral College, the original one, not the symbolic one we use now. This is the same Electoral College the D’s hated after the ’00 election, the symbolic one not the original one. Now the reason for the super delegates was because the party was persuaded to put up George McGovern as the candidate by the far left, anti war fringe, this is the guy who said he would crawl on his knees to Hanoi if that is what it takes to stop the war. He lost in the worst landslide in history, only won one state, to Nixon no less. So the elites decided the unwashed masses couldn’t be trusted to elect the right guy. Well a funny thing happened, those radicals grew up and now run the party, now their version of McGovern is poised to lose because of the system their predecessors put in place to keep a far left wing liberal from getting nominated. It’s really kind of precious

the other strawmen and rwnj distortions aren’t worth knocking the stuffing out of, but sweet jesus that line still makes me laugh… the media IS McSame’s base.

You know Enky, I’m going to have to give you this one. Not because I retract anything I said, but you me some accurate points, mostly you are correct. The primary reason I I’m conceding is because I could in good conscience engage in the proper level of schadenfreude without giving this one to you.

Rush is doing everything you say and so much more. He doesn’t care whether Hillary or Obama win, he doesn’t much care for McCain for that matter. He only cares that they both stay in the race until the convention. They spend the summer beating each other up, they spend tons of money and the media is covering them and trashing McCain. We (R’s) don’t have much of a chance winning this election, but this is helping.

This whole thing is so precious on so many levels. These last primaries would be more or less moot without the super delegates. Now the super delegates are the Democrat’s version of the Electoral College, the original one, not the symbolic one we use now. This is the same Electoral College the D’s hated after the ’00 election, the symbolic one not the original one. Now the reason for the super delegates was because the party was persuaded to put up George McGovern as the candidate by the far left, anti war fringe, this is the guy who said he would crawl on his knees to Hanoi if that is what it takes to stop the war. He lost in the worst landslide in history, only won one state, to Nixon no less. So the elites decided the unwashed masses couldn’t be trusted to elect the right guy. Well a funny thing happened, those radicals grew up and now run the party, now their version of McGovern is poised to lose because of the system their predecessors put in place to keep a far left wing liberal from getting nominated. It’s really kind of precious.

No way in hell he will continue to ‘support’ Hillary (operation chaos, look back at any of the multitude of past RL smears against the Clintons, etc etc etc) once it is down to Hillary vs McSame.

gObama!

Barack wants your vote in the Nov election

I’ll watch that, I’m as poor a speller as Bush is a speaker, you should see these posts before I spell check them, the other day I looked up “meen” and “mean” I thought I was using mean when I should be using meen, to my shock there was no meen. If you notice I always say Sadam, because I don’t know how to spell his last name without looking it up.

I disagree with you on the crossover votes. Which shouldn’t be allowed by the legislature but since it is… If Rush bellows to R’s and I’s vote for Hill, and a spokesman from the Obama camp says he wishes to “reach out to R’s and I’s” for their considered vote, that is just a difference in style, the end result is the same.

I intentionally misspell things for comedic effect
example
have we found teh WMDz!!1!!!1! yet?

And as to rushbots trying to get the weaker of the two Dems into the race, there is no comparison between Obama reaching across to Rs and Inds (like me) and Limp-baugh getting his dittoheads to throw the primary to Hillary. Nice strawman, btw.

Yes Rush Limbaugh has asked Republicans to vote for Hillary, but I believe Obama’s camp also asked Republicans to cross over and vote for him.

Speaking proper English will get you farther in life than trying to emulate Enky.

Of course bombing Iran isn’t a game. But if you are mad at someone it should be Paul not Petraeus. The general was there and answered every question he could in a thoughtful, truthful, and respectful manner, judging by past experience. I didn’t watch the entire meeting, I’m sure none of you did either (I doubt anyone that wasn’t getting paid to watch it did) but my guess is that it lasted the better part of all day if not several days and there were probably two or three of these incidents. But the rest of the time the discussions with Petraeus were professional and fruitful. That is the game part, the part Paul was playing, not Petraeus.

Knarly is also right that the system provides checks and balances. Petraeus was honoring those checks and balances, Paul was abusing them. If Paul really wants an answer to that question he should call a constitutional scholar to testify. Paul doesn’t want to call someone like that because then he would get an answer he doesn’t want to hear. I’m really not picking on Paul, this tactic isn’t uncommon. If the administration is doing something unconstitutional then there are procedures to fix it. Paul knows they have done nothing unconstitutional so he presents the question to someone who not only won’t but someone who can’t answer the question. He is all over you tube and the news that night and absolutely nothing was accomplished in those 5 minutes, that is a game.

I hadn’t heard anything about the sour grapes guy in Alabama, who is free on bail? Maybe that is clue? The best answer I have with knowing absolutely nothing about this is maybe the press has done their job for once and there is no story, this guy may be full of organic fertilizer.

Wear a hat Knarly
Do a little ice fishing while you’re painting, the kind where you fish for a beer at the bottom of the ice chest.

Your response makes sense, except I wouldn’t call it a game.

Ron Paul made it clear at the beginning that his intention was to get his questions on the record. There is value in that.

These questions need to be on the record and need to be considered (by the General and others.) An answer, to those questions, at this particular moment is not so important.

Sometimes it is important just to let others know that other people are thinking and that they are not solely in charge of the nation’s agenda. There are limits.

The Constitution of the United States was supposed to provide the safeguards as deemed vital by the founder’s who had experienced tyranny first hand and were highly learned men knowledgable about the history of the human struggle to cast off such tyranny in the recent past in Europe and in ancient times. But you know all that, and don’t care because the current tyrrants are republicans (see my “bad apples” post immediately above yours.)

Or here is another example. If I read the story correctly, a Governor is elected (Alabama, 2002) and later claims his election was only made possible by rigged elections. He tells major news networks in interviews, they cut that segment of the interview out. He tells newspapers, they refuse to cover the story. He can’t get heard. Why not? Maybe he’s a total flake with severe hallucinations, but you’d think that a former governor that whacked out and making such bold claims would be newsworthy. You tell me. Or not, if this is too boring for you.

http://www.bradblog.com/?p=5889

And if you want to stay on that topic, here is an update:
http://www.bradblog.com/?p=5890

No, it has more to do with protocol and constitutional responsibilities. Paul lets him know early on that this is just going to be a speech masquerading as a question, or a series of questions. Paul is also reading off a script and after just a few moments it is obvious he is not going to let Petraeus say much if anything. This is a common tactic among politicians looking for a sound bite. They get to talk and talk, then they try and get a sound bite from the victim. If you notice Paul was very careful to not deviate from his script. He didn’t ask Petraeus if he thought they should invade, or what the ramifications would be, which would have been within the purview of a general. He asked if it would be constitutional. The constitutionality is the responsibility of the Supreme Court, the President and the Congress, not the general. It is doubtful a general would answer that question in an interview, there is no way he will answer that question in front of congress. It is simply an inappropriate question. Paul knows that, which is why he phrased it that way. He needed to allow the general to answer one question to give the rest on the rhetorical questions at least a tiny bit of credence. He also got a free sound bite that Michael Moore can spin in his next film.

It’s all part of the game, Petraeus knew what going in. One or two congressmen would engage in these speeches and the rest would actually ask thoughtful queries. He was caught a little off guard surprisingly but he recovered nicely. He knows his place and decorum didn’t allow him to call the Congressman on it. He could have easily got into the inappropriateness of even asking that question. But he would have paid for that later, Paul put him in a no win situation and he decided to cut his losses and say he was only involved in Iraq bla bla bla. Paul got his speech, and the real business of the session could continue. There was little to be gained and much to be lost in pressing Paul.

Seems like they are all in the White House.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080410/ap_on_go_ca_st_pe/interrogation_tactics

You know what, I really don’t care what the answer is. If you Americans bomb innocent civilians in Iran then Karma or hell will take care of whoever is responsible for it. It’s got nothing to do with me.