so adding a couple “1″s into a series of exclamation marks (emulating a breathlessly enthusiastic cellular text msg) and tweaking your spittle flecked beard about being so incredibly wrong about Saddam’s vast horde of world threatening WMDs (oops forgot the wink n a nod “z”) elicits a whole paragraph of incomprehensible drivel? Golly TV it must still really hurt that you are so completely and utterly wrong about those WMDs huh chief? My smackdown of your wingnuttery was ridiculously easy to accomplish, because your childish reliance on rightwing bullshit doesn’t stand the harsh light of reality.

There were no WMDs.
bush is incompetent (and probably still a drunk).
You are a partisan tool.

What you said - my point exactly

P.S. - Goer ‘n’ Carry both lost; git ovar it.

as to the whole ‘kill them evil prairie dogs/muslims’ metaphor:
funny, I bet I could ask teh Goog about your repeated statements that (paraphrasing rwnj blather here) ‘we are at war with a billion Mooslmen!!1!1!’ which sounds alot like your fantasies that we found teh WMDz!!!! Iraq is going just swell! shrub is competent etc etc etc

both you rwnjs repeatedly proclaim your gawd given right to shoot anything you consider ‘bad’ or ‘evil’ (pretty much 98% of the rest of the planet)…

you repeatedly use a embarrassingly transparent metaphor (prairie dogs = bad, Muslim = bad, so they all must die die die!!!!) so your genocidal fantasies can be ‘justified’

364 days until shrub is a footnote in history: the Worst US president ever.

I can’t speak for shcb, but I don’t drink bear, couldn’t pick Britney Spears out of a 2-person lineup, and don’t know the channel of Entertainment Tonight. Be careful, such presumptive analysis of me can destroy your credibility. :-)

The article you linked was at least 90% devoted to positive comparisons of Hitler and FDR, their similar programs (Social Security, other social schemes such as government-run schools, national health care, economic fascism, the suspension of civil liberties, etc.), and their respect for each other. As the author states, “…very few Americans realize that Social Security, public schooling, Medicare, and Medicaid have their idealogical roots in German socialism.” You know, all those government-run programs that are failing and going broke. Those damned socialist Rethuglican nazis again - I can see how you might have to re-think a few of your beliefs.

The second page wouldn’t open up for me (PC needs rebooting), but maybe that’s where the credible Bush-bashing you admire was written. Of course I’m one of those knuckle dragging goose-steppers who only supports Bush because I’m fearful that a family member might report me if I speak against him. I’d hate to be thrown in a gulag by the Bush SS for speaking out against him; it happens here all the time, you know, and I never know which of my students are covert members of the Bush Youth.

On a related subject, I found this fascinating for some parallels with current thinking that I did not realize, I will have to re-think a few of my beliefs:
http://www.fff.org/freedom/fd0703a.asp

The knuckle draggers will, indubitably, fail to see the merits of the article and how it relates to their own careless thought processes.

enkidu, I understand your frustration. Since non-combat deaths are used to inflate “war casualty” numbers, it figures that you would prefer to include deaths from non-war related causes in the civilian casualty numbers. What shcb said above about accuracy… Would it be fair to subtract the number of Shiites and Kurds who would have died at the hands of the Saddam regime in the last 4.5 years from that number, using the average figures from before March 2003? Nah, it wouldn’t serve the purpose to look at both sides of the equation.

Of course, you’re right that I shouldn’t have compared prairie dogs to Islamofascists - prairie dogs are cute and interesting, and their destructiveness is natural, not based on a doctrine of hatred.

Somewhat chilling how eager gun happy rwnjs are to ‘joke’ that muslim = prairie dog (and thus killing all muslims = ‘good’). Does anyone think that the (mid 20th century right wing totalitarian mid-european nutjob)s didn’t call a certain religious minority ‘rats’ and ‘dogs’ as a way to justify and sanctify their extermination? rwnjs think violence is the first best solution to everything. That and tax cuts. If you can’t bomb or shoot it, cut taxes for the rich!

How many times has dear rwnj or TV called me or others here seditious traitors? (the penalty for sedition is hanging btw)

As to the body count: let us guesstimate there are perhaps 210,000 dead Iraqis because of shrub’s folly. That is 70 times the size of 9/11 (which pissed us off big time, justifiably releasing our military on the Taliban and OBL - who is still alive btw). So in a nation that is less than 1/10th of our size this is like having 700 9/11s happen over the last 4.5 years. Let us just call it 1000 9/11s over 5 years, or 200 9/11s every single year. That is roughly a 9/11 every other day.

I think 210,000 is pretty conservative as the number of dead from bad water, lack of electricity, spoiled medicine, food etc should be in this number of Iraqi War dead. I also count the dead from insurgent bombs as well as American ‘misses’ (and hits). These people would be alive if it weren’t for the neocon dream. Oh sure we killed some real bad guys now and then, but does that justify killing 4x as many civilians? Have we found teh WMDz!1!1!!! yet? No and no (there weren’t any).

I wonder if yMom will delete my post because it doesn’t live up to his lofty standards of ‘debate’?

Or should we just go back to debating the relative merits of Ginger vs Mary Anne?

I also like the scene from “Good Will Hunting” that someone posted in the comment section below:

http://www.911blogger.com/node/13430

Enjoy…

Co-exist as long as you covert.

You have let the terrorists scare you. You have to stay strong in the face of these cavemen. As already discussed, you are much, much more likely to be struck by lightning than to be nuked by a caveman.

Apparently Kucinich is doing a partial recount at a cost of $27,000 to his campaign, so if there is discrepancy in the paper ballots we may find out soon, not sure how that relates to the computer tallies though.

And you are also wrong saying that no-one thinks the Republican NH primary was tampered with, there have been similar grumblings about vote skimming from trailing candidates but I have not been following that story except to note that Ron Paul did not consider it a valid caim or important enough to divert his financial resources to investigate further.