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	<title>Comments on: Greenwald on the Mystery of Gonzales&#8217;s and Addington&#8217;s Position on Destroying the Torture Tapes</title>
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	<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 22:05:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: knarlyknight</title>
		<link>http://www.lies.com/wp/2008/01/02/greenwald-on-the-mystery-of-gonzaless-and-addingtons-position-on-destroying-the-torture-tapes/#comment-73536</link>
		<dc:creator>knarlyknight</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jan 2008 04:55:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Steve,

This might be of more concern than all of the above: "Violent Radicalization and Homegrown Terrorism Prevention Act,” (HR 1955) .   Google what Paul Craig Roberts has to say about it at informationclearinghouse .... apparently, your previous post could be considered subversive under that Act.

"Daunting" was your word; "pessimist" was mine - that is until I came across this:

www.georgewashington.blogspot.com/2008/01/way-out-of-catch-22.html

&lt;b&gt;Damn the Tapes, It’s Time to Sing the Chorus “We Won’t Live in a Torture State”&lt;/b&gt; - Jill McLaughlin, World Can’t Wait Steering Committee</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve,</p>
<p>This might be of more concern than all of the above: &#8220;Violent Radicalization and Homegrown Terrorism Prevention Act,” (HR 1955) .   Google what Paul Craig Roberts has to say about it at informationclearinghouse &#8230;. apparently, your previous post could be considered subversive under that Act.</p>
<p>&#8220;Daunting&#8221; was your word; &#8220;pessimist&#8221; was mine - that is until I came across this:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.georgewashington.blogspot.com/2008/01/way-out-of-catch-22.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.georgewashington.blogspot.com/2008/01/way-out-of-catch-22.html</a></p>
<p><b>Damn the Tapes, It’s Time to Sing the Chorus “We Won’t Live in a Torture State”</b> - Jill McLaughlin, World Can’t Wait Steering Committee</p>
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		<title>By: knarlyknight</title>
		<link>http://www.lies.com/wp/2008/01/02/greenwald-on-the-mystery-of-gonzaless-and-addingtons-position-on-destroying-the-torture-tapes/#comment-73532</link>
		<dc:creator>knarlyknight</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jan 2008 04:47:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Steve,

This might be of more concern than all of the above: "Violent Radicalization and Homegrown Terrorism Prevention Act,” (HR 1955) .   Paul Craig Roberts says it is plenty bad: http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article19002.htm

Apparently, your previous post could be considered subversive under that Act.

"Daunting" was your word; "pessimist" was mine - that is until I came across this:

http://georgewashington.blogspot.com/2008/01/way-out-of-catch-22.html



&lt;b&gt;Damn the Tapes, It’s Time to Sing the Chorus “We Won’t Live in a Torture State”&lt;/b&gt; - Jill McLaughlin, World Can’t Wait Steering Committee</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve,</p>
<p>This might be of more concern than all of the above: &#8220;Violent Radicalization and Homegrown Terrorism Prevention Act,” (HR 1955) .   Paul Craig Roberts says it is plenty bad: <a href="http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article19002.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article19002.htm</a></p>
<p>Apparently, your previous post could be considered subversive under that Act.</p>
<p>&#8220;Daunting&#8221; was your word; &#8220;pessimist&#8221; was mine - that is until I came across this:</p>
<p><a href="http://georgewashington.blogspot.com/2008/01/way-out-of-catch-22.html" rel="nofollow">http://georgewashington.blogspot.com/2008/01/way-out-of-catch-22.html</a></p>
<p><b>Damn the Tapes, It’s Time to Sing the Chorus “We Won’t Live in a Torture State”</b> - Jill McLaughlin, World Can’t Wait Steering Committee</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
		<link>http://www.lies.com/wp/2008/01/02/greenwald-on-the-mystery-of-gonzaless-and-addingtons-position-on-destroying-the-torture-tapes/#comment-73526</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jan 2008 23:06:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It's hard to overstate how daunting it feels to have a President who claims he doesn't have to follow the law combined with a Congress that seems to agree.

At least it seems we'll be able to stop the telecom immunity bill.  The torture, rendition, warrantless spying, signing statements, and others might just be a lasting shame.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s hard to overstate how daunting it feels to have a President who claims he doesn&#8217;t have to follow the law combined with a Congress that seems to agree.</p>
<p>At least it seems we&#8217;ll be able to stop the telecom immunity bill.  The torture, rendition, warrantless spying, signing statements, and others might just be a lasting shame.</p>
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		<title>By: knarlyknight</title>
		<link>http://www.lies.com/wp/2008/01/02/greenwald-on-the-mystery-of-gonzaless-and-addingtons-position-on-destroying-the-torture-tapes/#comment-73456</link>
		<dc:creator>knarlyknight</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jan 2008 20:28:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also, the NY Times published Sen's Kean and Hamilton comments about the illegality of withholding the CIA tapes from their Commission:

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/02/opinion/02kean.html?_r=1&#38;ref=opinion&#38;oref=slogin</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also, the NY Times published Sen&#8217;s Kean and Hamilton comments about the illegality of withholding the CIA tapes from their Commission:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/02/opinion/02kean.html?_r=1&amp;ref=opinion&amp;oref=slogin" rel="nofollow">http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/02/opinion/02kean.html?_r=1&amp;ref=opinion&amp;oref=slogin</a></p>
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		<title>By: knarlyknight</title>
		<link>http://www.lies.com/wp/2008/01/02/greenwald-on-the-mystery-of-gonzaless-and-addingtons-position-on-destroying-the-torture-tapes/#comment-73455</link>
		<dc:creator>knarlyknight</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jan 2008 20:25:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Greenwald has posted an update:

UPDATE: On a not unrelated note, the annual survey of worldwide privacy rights conducted by Privacy International and EPIC has been released for 2007, and the U.S. has been downgraded from "Extensive Surveillance Society" to "Endemic Surveillance Society," the worst possible category there is for privacy protections, the category also occupied by countries such as China, Russia, Singapore and Malaysia. The survey uses a variety of objective factors to determine the extent of privacy protections citizens enjoy from their government, and the U.S. now finishes at the bottom for obvious reasons. 

Evidence that we are becoming a lawless surveillance state is abundant. But let's forget all of that and figure out how we can best micro-manage the internal affairs of Pakistan and Iraq and Russia and Iran so that we can preserve Freedom and Democracy for the world.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Greenwald has posted an update:</p>
<p>UPDATE: On a not unrelated note, the annual survey of worldwide privacy rights conducted by Privacy International and EPIC has been released for 2007, and the U.S. has been downgraded from &#8220;Extensive Surveillance Society&#8221; to &#8220;Endemic Surveillance Society,&#8221; the worst possible category there is for privacy protections, the category also occupied by countries such as China, Russia, Singapore and Malaysia. The survey uses a variety of objective factors to determine the extent of privacy protections citizens enjoy from their government, and the U.S. now finishes at the bottom for obvious reasons. </p>
<p>Evidence that we are becoming a lawless surveillance state is abundant. But let&#8217;s forget all of that and figure out how we can best micro-manage the internal affairs of Pakistan and Iraq and Russia and Iran so that we can preserve Freedom and Democracy for the world.</p>
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