Comments on: You ‘08 - Health Care Debate

By: shcb

shcb — Sat, 12 Jan 2008 18:04:07 +0000

I’m kind of interested, do tell!

By: enkidu

enkidu — Sat, 12 Jan 2008 16:33:27 +0000

hey lefty, no one wants to hear about how your mother abused you
or you abused your mother
or whatever

so please
stfu
and back in your cave

By: leftbehind

leftbehind — Sat, 12 Jan 2008 02:32:47 +0000

Absolutely right…for once.

By: enkidu

enkidu — Sat, 12 Jan 2008 01:23:57 +0000

yMom knows best

By: shcb

shcb — Fri, 11 Jan 2008 23:43:58 +0000

By: ymatt

ymatt — Fri, 11 Jan 2008 22:15:19 +0000

I don’t see the point in a war debate. I’ve been purposely picking topics where there is a broad swath of opinion represented in the original platforms, but I don’t see that for the topic of the Iraq war. I’m about as uninterested in you/us yelling at shcb as I am the opposite at this point.

By: enkidu

enkidu — Fri, 11 Jan 2008 21:41:09 +0000

hey I hear there is some sort of War someplace or other
maybe we could talk about that

By: NorthernLite

NorthernLite — Fri, 11 Jan 2008 21:04:03 +0000

So it’s settled then: Everyone agrees that the wealthiest nation on the planet should provide healthcare coverage for every one of its citizens. :)

Next topic in the debate please.

By: leftbehind

leftbehind — Fri, 11 Jan 2008 18:45:52 +0000

If you’re talking to me, I wasn’t referring to you Matt (i.e. making reference to Knarly’s YMom thing. ) I was addressing Enkidu. One of the reasons I like him so much is because he reminds me of my mother. Have I ever mentioned that it was Mom who turned me against women?

By: ymatt

ymatt — Fri, 11 Jan 2008 17:04:15 +0000

Are you blaming me for deleting some post you didn’t actually submit? I’ve been out of town for a week, dude.

By: leftbehind

leftbehind — Fri, 11 Jan 2008 13:21:43 +0000

Uh oh…Mom’s home. Be it far beyond me to correct or contradict such an accomplished figure (a jet pilot and a healthcare insider, my my) but I think the rest of the class and I have already been through this. I really doubt you have anything substantial to add to the conversation.

By: enkidu

enkidu — Thu, 10 Jan 2008 21:11:27 +0000

or in your case lefty - a bear of very little brain

under R presidents the deficit grew an average of 36.6%
while under D presidents it grew an average of 4.2%
do I need to diagram that for you?

By: leftbehind

leftbehind — Thu, 10 Jan 2008 03:32:43 +0000

‘Cause that’s what America’s all about - helping the little guy.

By: leftbehind

leftbehind — Thu, 10 Jan 2008 03:30:38 +0000

Knarly - No, Kerry didn’t run for President in 2000. Once again, your perception of the obvious is staggering - but who said that Kerry ran in 2000? Nobody even brought up the 2000 election until you brought Gore up after I had made a comment regarding whether or not I thought John Kerry would be more fiscally responsible as a President than Bush has been, had he been elected in 2004. Is this conversation moving too fast? Do you need us to slow down, or start diagraming our paragraphs? There’s no shame in asking for clarification when a conversation becomes too complicated, or when your second-hand knowledge of American politics becomes an obstacle. Everyone here is your friend, and we’re here to help.

By: ymatt

ymatt — Fri, 04 Jan 2008 04:41:44 +0000

I’m so proud, I’ve never had a nickname that’s made from a hilarious misspelling that is also an irreverent reference to my behavior before!

yMom ‘08!

By: knarlyknight

knarlyknight — Fri, 04 Jan 2008 04:28:12 +0000

hi left, meant “(sic)” as in Kerry wasn’t running in 2000, I’m not sure what Kerry’s role in all that would have been. Good thing yMom told us not to fight about whether we should go with Gore next time, I have to get some sleep tonight for a change. By the way, thanks to your country for the interesting politics, (the Canadian stuff usually bores me to tears and our current Prime Minister, Steve Harper, is the first ever that I literally can NOT listen to for morethan 30 seconds without feeling a strong urge to barf.)

By: leftbehind

leftbehind — Fri, 04 Jan 2008 04:19:12 +0000

John Kerry may, in fact be sick, but last I checked, his name is spelled K-e-r-r-y, so we’re cool.

By: knarlyknight

knarlyknight — Fri, 04 Jan 2008 03:58:05 +0000

ymatt, just for clarity, this discussion arose from comments about healthcare and deficits, with Lefty asserting in his last Dec 31 post that Kerry (sic?) would have blown the Clinton “surplus” just as Bush had done post 2000. I tried to explain, poorly, that there are huge differences in how Bush’s plan resulted in huge deficits compared to how Gore’s plan likely would have impacted tax revenues - over time - less than Bush’s and that overall Gore’s deficits would likely be smaller. (Originally I thought Gore might have retained the projected surplus as a real surplus, but have since reconsidered.)

I took issue with the certainty with which Lefty stated that things would have been just as bad under the other partys president. The reason is that I believe that there are few things worse for government revenues over time than the big tax cuts for the ultra rich that Bush handed out in the early 2000’s.

Anything less fiscally stupid than that would have probably had a better outcome. Like the Gore plan, whatever that was.

So in the end we all agree that your political leaders, republican or democrat, both are poor in terms of fiscal responsibility. However, I also recognize that my agreement with that position seems to fly in the face of the conclusions by wiki and http://www.cedarcomm.com/~stevelm1/usdebt.htm, both of which show, in terms of debt increases, that the republican are the worse of the two evils.

By: knarlyknight

knarlyknight — Fri, 04 Jan 2008 03:07:51 +0000

Yes, ymatt, I agree with that too, and also, as I’ve recently learned from the civics and the wiki site we referenced is that traditionally

the Dems have been more likely to tax and spend, wheras

Republicans are more likely to borrow and spend.

By: leftbehind

leftbehind — Fri, 04 Jan 2008 02:56:05 +0000

Exactly.