http://www.911blogger.com/node/12672

Robert Baer …is a widely respected expert on intelligence matters and middle eastern foreign policy, an Emmy award nominated documentarian and a strong advocate of the CIA’s need to increase Human Intelligence (HUMINT) on the ground.
Baer served as a clandestine officer in Madras and New Delhi, India; in Beirut, Lebanon; in Dushanbe, Tajikistan; and in Salah al-Din in Kurdish northern Iraq. While in Iraq, Baer tried to persuade the Clinton administration to back a coup to overthrow Saddam Hussein.

…Baer (says) that “the evidence points at” 9/11 having had aspects of being an inside job, the noisy negativists and the trolls were notable by their absence.
…
One of the foremost intelligence and foreign policy experts in America and a 20-year CIA veteran to boot says that 9/11 looks like an inside job.

Let’s hear Bill O’Reilly try and trash this hugely regarded individual as another tin-foil hat wearing conspiracy theorist.

Let’s hear Glenn Beck attempt to slander Baer as the next Timothy McVeigh terrorist bomber.

Let’s hear Sean Hannity ridicule this honorable professional and CIA Career Intelligence Medal decorated stalwart as a caricature of liberal political hate speech.

They couldn’t, and that’s precisely why the debunkers, the COINTELPRO counter-operatives, the Neo-Con talking heads and the trolls are loathe to address Baer’s expert judgment on 9/11 being a likely inside job.

http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/november2007/051107_inside_job.htm

Yea right.

Your credibility is seriously tarnished by your praise for a link that asserts the existence of a non-existent video (???) as a key component of one of its central claims; among the link’s innyumerable errors.

You don’t see it that way of course because everything you believe in this matter is simply wrong.

I did not ask any real questions, they were rhetorical sarcasms in parody of your red herring deflections away from the real issue that the link badfin provided was ridiculous.

You’re wasting my time, just like badfins link is a total waste of time.

You’re belittling the horrifying toll that traffic accidents inflict upon innocent American families? Tell that to the mother of a recent paraplegic.

You’re justifying the killing of tens of thousands if not hundreds of thousands of fellow human beings in Afghanistan and Iraq - most of whom have done nothing to harm your “homeland” - based on the conspiracy by a couple dozen or so Saudi Arabians 911?

Why are you going to such lengths to ignore evidence that points to treasonous persons who were and who are in your current government and so why do you not support the Bill of Rights and the Constitution of the United States?

The real issue was that Badfin’s link is not worthy: you base your entire case on: (a) cherry picked* statements that conflict with a vast number of other firefighter statements; and, (b) flimsy evidence of a picture that (may or may not - the picture’s veracity has NOT been confirmed) you say is “good enough” to support Badfin’s link’s claim that there is a video. A video taken from the severely damaged side of WTC7 that supposedly inequivocally shows that the damaged side of WTC7 collapsed first. That is far from good enough by any reasonable standard. It does virtually nothing to support claims made by that link. Show me the video or withdraw the claims that they made based on the utter hearsay that such a video exists. You can’t provide a link because the video as described does not exist. That is one very significant reason why the link Badfin provided is ridiculous and utter crap.

*Cherry picked - the statements may not represent the majority view of the firemen. Historians reconstruct what has happened during a historical event by taking into consideration the motives, background, knowledge and pressures upon people who have made statements, be they rulers - either the victorious or the vanquished, their spokespeople, or people whose future lives or careers have a significant stake in speaking in unison with the “official story.” As such, any cherry picked quotes from Badfin’s site is highly suspect given the enormous innaccuracies elsewhere and their self-described bias toward skepticism of anything that does not follow the official conspiracy as told by the government.

Your justifying the deaths of 911 to traffic accidents? Why are you going to such lengths to stand up for Islamofascists? There is a picture of the damage to Building 7 on debunking911 and interviews with firefighters that day. Close enough. I didn’t provide a link either, does that mean it’s not there?

What turned me off is that they actually claim there is a VIDEO OF THE DAMAGED SIDE OF BUILDING 7 AS IT COLLAPSES - without providing any references for it. If you can show me that such a video actually exists (good luck schmuck), I will reconsider the rest of their supposed evidence in more detail.

As for the death orders from the president that you suggest is so easy, as usual you utterly fail to comprehend that it is was not the 3000 dead that split time into a pre and a post 911 era. Heck more than that die on the highways every few months. What was remarkable was the shock and awe. Read Shock Doctrine to fully comprehend. It was the spectacle and ensuing shock (a new Pearl Harbor) that allowed the American psyche (e.g. yours) to be sculpted into an increased militarism including embracing war on terrorism that its proponents claim will not end in our lifetimes.

Don’t let Knarly scare you off, this is a tactic untrained dog use as a defense. They charge and bark usually moving slightly sideways so they can run at any time. The trained dog has confidence so he will confront you head on. I’m sure your site is just fine, notice he didn’t give any examples of what was wrong, you were lucky, he has thousands of pages of nonsense he can use.

You make a valid point, if Bush wanted thousands of Americans to die he could just make a call to someone over there and say do you know someone who knows someone who can make this happen, the answer would be yes and that would be that. Or even more simply, he could just send in troops, he is the president after all.

But that would be way too simple. For one thing it defies logic that any president would do that especially this president. So when there is no logic we invent it. The more convoluted this invented logic the better, makes it harder to follow the path that leads to nowhere, then at some point Knarly can say “therefore” after we are far enough down this tortured path that we just don’t want to retrace our steps.

That is why it is important to pick apart the pieces before he drags you and them into the abyss of his mind.

Also, your reference to the Bush Family’s Saudi connections is bizzare. Are you trying to suggest the Bush family’s close connections to the bin Laden family played a role, or that most of the 19 hijackers (who were in fact Saudi Arabian nationals) played a part in 911 as a result of Bush having influence in Suadi Arabia? That’s nuts. So, hypethetically of course, how exactly would Bush use his family’s Saudi Arabian connections to make towers in Manhattan expolode? I can see absolutely NO realistic scenario for how Dubbya could orchestrate such a plot with his Saudi connections - please Badphin won’t you enlighten us?

http://www.skeptic.com/eskeptic/06-09-11.html#feature

Besides, if Bush wanted the towers to fall, he has more than enough influence and connections in Saudi Arabia to ensure that it would happen- exactly as it did.

http://www.911blogger.com/node/12188

Sample:

FOX NEWS MEMO: “The so-called 9/11 Commission has already been meeting. In fact, this is its eighth session. The fact that former Clinton and both former and current Bush administration officials are testifying gives it a certain tension, but this is not ‘what did he know and when did he know it’ stuff. Don’t turn this into Watergate.”
…
Orders straight from the top. No discussion, no debate. “Don’t turn this into Watergate.”

Why on earth not?

http://www.newswithviews.com/Devvy/kidd317.htm

Perhaps the games can continue (with the shcb imposter); but first, here is a little entertainment:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BoJJIYWMZlY