Comments on: US War Dead in Iraq for January http://www.lies.com/wp/2007/02/10/us-war-dead-in-iraq-for-january/ believe nothing... Sun, 07 Sep 2008 17:21:37 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.1 By: shcb http://www.lies.com/wp/2007/02/10/us-war-dead-in-iraq-for-january/#comment-44399 shcb Tue, 27 Feb 2007 14:10:01 +0000 http://www.lies.com/wp/2007/02/10/us-war-dead-in-iraq-for-january/#comment-44399 We all of course hope your predictions are wrong, I don’t think anyone wants to see our young men die in those kinds of numbers, but if that is what it takes to win, then the sacrifice will have to be made. Failure is not an option. Here is a link to a page that refutes your prognosis fairly well: http://www.heritage.org/Research/NationalSecurity/bg1954.cfm In summary, this paper says the two wars are quite different in mission and method. One way I can see this campaign going the way of the Vietnam war is for liberals to get in the oval office, note I didn’t say Democrats. Micromanaged incrementalism stands a good chance of the need for a much larger force and higher casualties at a later date. This is the path we took Vietnam, history notes the results. We learned many lessons in Vietnam from a military standpoint, lessons we seem to have not forgotten judging from the success on the ground in this campaign. We haven’t been as successful learning our lessons at the ballot box. It should be obvious by now liberals and Democrats are not to be trusted with national security. This is a lesson I am afraid we will have to learn all over again. Short Haired Country Boy PS I see NPH is on a tear for his conspiracy theory again please read my rebuff on the Closing Arguments in the Scooter Libby Trial page. We all of course hope your predictions are wrong, I don’t think anyone wants to see our young men die in those kinds of numbers, but if that is what it takes to win, then the sacrifice will have to be made. Failure is not an option.
Here is a link to a page that refutes your prognosis fairly well: http://www.heritage.org/Research/NationalSecurity/bg1954.cfm

In summary, this paper says the two wars are quite different in mission and method. One way I can see this campaign going the way of the Vietnam war is for liberals to get in the oval office, note I didn’t say Democrats. Micromanaged incrementalism stands a good chance of the need for a much larger force and higher casualties at a later date. This is the path we took Vietnam, history notes the results. We learned many lessons in Vietnam from a military standpoint, lessons we seem to have not forgotten judging from the success on the ground in this campaign. We haven’t been as successful learning our lessons at the ballot box. It should be obvious by now liberals and Democrats are not to be trusted with national security. This is a lesson I am afraid we will have to learn all over again.

Short Haired Country Boy

PS I see NPH is on a tear for his conspiracy theory again please read my rebuff on the
Closing Arguments in the Scooter Libby Trial page.

]]> By: newpearlharbor http://www.lies.com/wp/2007/02/10/us-war-dead-in-iraq-for-january/#comment-44154 newpearlharbor Fri, 23 Feb 2007 03:58:48 +0000 http://www.lies.com/wp/2007/02/10/us-war-dead-in-iraq-for-january/#comment-44154 Iraq is far worse than Vietnam..because Iraq is the start of a global positioning in the world by this administration. I am sick and tired of all these idiots that swallow the rhetoric passed out by the leashed mass media with their cute keywords ,spat out every five seconds so brain dead flag waving morons can reiterate them with an assumed air of authority ..."cut and run" "fight them over there so we dont fight them over here " "war on terror"...Its like training chimps. Look into the events of 911..read ..listen ..and question ..most of all question... Why when every major media outlet going stuck a mic under someones face when they were covered in dust and interviewed them and they said "I heard an explosion below me on the 7th floor " or I heard a large explosion in the basement " or a fire chief says I saw huge explosion damage in the basement with the marble wall blown off...were these interviews buried ..never to be shown again by the likes of cnn or fox or abc??? why were over 500 radio messages between firefighters or police or emts and their control stations held by the government under national security ???and when some were released recently under great pressure they too contained NUMEROUS reports of explosions going off that had nothing to do with the planes? Why did the buildings fall at freefall speed ( scientifically proven ) when it would be scientifically impossible to do so if it encountered resistance at every level on the way down ( science proves the only way is if the base and key points all the way up were demolished in unison)?? Why is this the only steel structure in history to fall as a result of fire?despite the fact that a firefighter having got to the floor where the plane hit , called his control and said it was managable? Why did WT7 fall when it wasnt even hit by a plane? Why has traces of thermite been found on supporting beams at the base? The numerous helicoter footage from news crews show a 15-20 ft hole initially at the Pentagon ( before firefighters pulled the facade down later ) A Boeing 757 has a 112 ft wingsan with two 6 ton engines made of titanium and steel 60 feet apart from each other . How does two 6 ton engines 60 feet apart hit a building at 500mph and not make a dent on the wall or windows yet somehow slip into a 20 ft hole????? How does a whole plane melt into nothing ( the official government suggestion) when steel and titanium will melt at 2600f and a carbon based fire could only reach 1300f maximum under ideal circumstances ( not this one either)..These are scientifically proven facts. This is not fantasy ladies and gents ...This is what your government wants you to believe unquestioningly. The threat to this country was manufactured by a government who wanted a conflict with the middle east for oil and global expansion .This war will expand . Your government has been complicit in the worst mass murder this country has ever witnessed and you sit back and argue the pros and cons of a war strategy. History will condemn this time as one of the all time shameful episodes in human endeavours second only to the holocaust. Read and question...smoke and mirrors Iraq is far worse than Vietnam..because Iraq is the start of a global positioning in the world by this administration.
I am sick and tired of all these idiots that swallow the rhetoric passed out by the leashed mass media with their cute keywords ,spat out every five seconds so brain dead flag waving morons can reiterate them with an assumed air of authority …”cut and run” “fight them over there so we dont fight them over here ” “war on terror”…Its like training chimps.
Look into the events of 911..read ..listen ..and question ..most of all question…
Why when every major media outlet going stuck a mic under someones face when they were covered in dust and interviewed them and they said “I heard an explosion below me on the 7th floor ” or I heard a large explosion in the basement ” or a fire chief says I saw huge explosion damage in the basement with the marble wall blown off…were these interviews buried ..never to be shown again by the likes of cnn or fox or abc??? why were over 500 radio messages between firefighters or police or emts and their control stations held by the government under national security ???and when some were released recently under great pressure they too contained NUMEROUS reports of explosions going off that had nothing to do with the planes?
Why did the buildings fall at freefall speed ( scientifically proven ) when it would be scientifically impossible to do so if it encountered resistance at every level on the way down ( science proves the only way is if the base and key points all the way up were demolished in unison)??
Why is this the only steel structure in history to fall as a result of fire?despite the fact that a firefighter having got to the floor where the plane hit , called his control and said it was managable?
Why did WT7 fall when it wasnt even hit by a plane?
Why has traces of thermite been found on supporting beams at the base?
The numerous helicoter footage from news crews show a 15-20 ft hole initially at the Pentagon ( before firefighters pulled the facade down later )
A Boeing 757 has a 112 ft wingsan with two 6 ton engines made of titanium and steel 60 feet apart from each other .
How does two 6 ton engines 60 feet apart hit a building at 500mph and not make a dent on the wall or windows yet somehow slip into a 20 ft hole?????
How does a whole plane melt into nothing ( the official government suggestion) when steel and titanium will melt at 2600f and a carbon based fire could only reach 1300f maximum under ideal circumstances ( not this one either)..These are scientifically proven facts.
This is not fantasy ladies and gents …This is what your government wants you to believe unquestioningly.
The threat to this country was manufactured by a government who wanted a conflict with the middle east for oil and global expansion .This war will expand .
Your government has been complicit in the worst mass murder this country has ever witnessed and you sit back and argue the pros and cons of a war strategy.
History will condemn this time as one of the all time shameful episodes in human endeavours second only to the holocaust.
Read and question…smoke and mirrors

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