You didn’t realize there are nuts out there? Georgia has its share, and I’ve heard there could be a couple in California, too. The flat earth garbage is easily proven to be nonsense simply by looking out over Lake Michigan… and not seeing land because of the earth’s curvature. Those isolated dolts are not worth the effort necessary for argument – although, of course, you wish to falsely portray them as being characteristic of the Republican Party (your perpetual narcissism – also see the snide Georgia comments [and yep, Georgia gits lotsa light, ’specially durin’ the summer months, heh]). Of course, that provides an even more reliable measure: If they disagree with enkidu, they’re idiots, Nazis, racists, reichwingnutjobs, and just generally mean-spirited people!

Evolutionary biologists were desperate enough to convince us to believe in a theory — that, if true, would certainly be supported by physical evidence — that they invented Piltdown man (Dawson’s Dawn Man). They perpetuated the fraud for 40 years, and some folks still believe in the unproven theory… and the honesty of the profiteering biologists who purposely lied to us. I would never deny you the right to believe in their honesty, but don’t deny non-believers their right to explore other possibilities.

Pssst - It was called Global Warming for several years after the Global Cooling (coming Ice Age) part of the cycle played out in the late 70s. The cycle will continue, and humans can’t change the effects that the solar system, oceanic volcanoes, etc. have on our climate.

I’m certainly not a fan of Walmart, but I do shop there. I live in an isolated area outside a small town where most of our other businesses have since closed. I suppose I could move, or travel to a more congested area to shop, but I choose otherwise.

I’m surprised about the ADL’s relatively mild reaction.

BTW - I still haven’t got over the evolution-being-a-Jewish-conspiracy thing. That’s brilliant. Don’t those damn Jews know that the earth is only 5000 years or so and geologists are a bunch of fags? (Remember, it’s a fact; God hates fags significantly more than God hates people who wear mixed fabrics.)

The question remains, is fixedearth.com serious, or is it a joke poking fun at the anti-evolution crowd?

Hey are any of you wingers rep’d by this nutjob?
http://www.ajc.com/blogs/content/shared-blogs/ajc/georgia/entries/2007/02/15/antievolution_m.html

yeah, Georgia… (snicker) and this is supposed to be one of the ‘enlightened’ Suhthrn states? Or how about Texas? Oooops!

http://blogs.chron.com/sciguy/archives/ChisumPageOne.html
which was the cover letter for this nuttery:
http://blogs.chron.com/sciguy/archives/ChisumPageTwo.html
which of course points to this absolutely hilarious site
http://fixedearth.com/

oh yeah, you stormGOOPers are all about the Science… bwahahaha!

Sane people don’t worship Darwin, no more than we worship great minds like Newton, Copernicus, Galileo, Jesus, Buddah, Einstein, Turing or Hawking. Evolution works even if you don’t believe in it.

That you shop at WalMart says volumes about you TV.

An interesting analysis of the social phenomena behind the global warming debate, and you nailed the crux of my problem with the issue (outside of the highly politically motivated ‘research’ on both sides). Here’s another interesting question (to continue the thread hijack) - how many of the proponents of the doomsday scenario want to be right? To put it another way, how many would continue to cling to their ideals if it were ‘conclusively proven’ (a loaded term I know, but bear with me) that they either overstated their case, or were flat-out wrong?

My bullshit detector has been ringing inside my head for a long time on this one. Whenever I hear passionate pleas for attention largely based on doomsday scenarios - like ‘you’ll believe me in 10 years when New York City is underwater’, that detector rings. How different is that from people saying that I’ll believe in God/Jesus/whatever when the rapture takes place? Just because people make dire predictions, should we immediately believe them?

In any case, this is why I will continue to question the ‘believers’. I don’t have answers, only questions. However, I don’t mind anyone proving my convictions wrong on this one. Can the environmentalists say the same? I think that they want to be right, and they want us to be at grave risk. Sad, IMO.

I’m only commenting on Global Warming as a social phenomenon. I’ll leave it to you scientists to interpret the data for yourselves. You’re all doing such a wonderful job.

Does anybody remember “global cooling” back in the 1970’s?”

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_cooling#1970_SCEP_report

Can you identify the “hate speech”? Is it:
-The quotes from your preceding post?
-The rephrased statements that never received a response?
-Or, is hatred inherent in my failure to believe in Darwin’s unproven theory (the off-topic subject you introduced in this thread)?

The questions are not rhetorical. Since I dare to [evidently] insult you by asking such questions, does such audacity constitute “hate speech,” or make me a Nazi, or perhaps a racist?

Always amusing to see what tangent rightwingnutjobs will suddenly stagger off to in the course of a thread. What’s next? Your mommy’s sweater? If it is really really really warm next week will you suddenly believe?

http://denisdutton.com/cooling_world.htm

Of note, “Our knowledge of the mechanisms of climatic change is at least as fragmentary as our data,” concedes the National Academy of Sciences report. “Not only are the basic scientific questions largely unanswered, but in many cases we do not yet know enough to pose the key questions.”

And, “Climatologists are pessimistic that political leaders will take any positive action to compensate for the climatic change, or even to allay its effects.”

Yep, the sky is falling, as ascertained again by “science”. No, having visually observed the earth’s curvature from above on innumerable occasions, I don’t believe in a flat earth.

Also need some of the new Kyoto Mittens, “guaranteed to protect the wearer from the inconvenient truth of global warming-induced frostbite.”

I guess those comments make me a racist Nazi tool… sigh.

Today’s Congressional leaders:
a) Called for greater troop strength (as recently as December),
b) Condemned the increase in troop strength (in January), and
c) Have used casualties for political advantage (for almost 4 years).
–Your rebuttal? See your 3rd paragraph. You’re right; there is no debate.

Happy birthday, dear Darwin! I would face to the east, drop to my knees and bow to you, but I have a dog in my lap. When your pretty plausible theory becomes a proven scientific fact, I’ll throw the dog aside and pay the proper respects. Until then, pardon me if I’m not a believer, either in you or the state religion.

No more time for now; gotta go buy a global warming shovel from Walmart. According to Scott Ott, they are designed to remove the kind of snow spawned by greenhouse gases in the atmosphere. Also need some

“And, sometimes their prayers are answered. 27 more troop casualties in the two days since the post above - that should be pleasing to them.”

You spew this kind of garbage every single time you post, and if someone calls you an asshole and a partisan tool, suddenly it’s all about being polite and debate and blah blah fucking blah blah. There is no ‘debate’ between your partisan extemism and reality: you are a tool. A partisan, angry 5%er with a hate LibrlsFirst! potty mouth and a mean streak as wide as the stain in your grrranimals. To have you call me a liar is hilarious. Quite an honor!

Today is Darwin’s birthday! Did you hear the news last week about a breakthrough in understanding evolution? Google horizontal gene transfer and it is a pretty plausible, empirically provable theory to explain the increasing pace of evolution over the last few billion years.

Lefty - I voted for GHWB in ‘88. Clinton in ‘92 and ‘96 those were great years… competent government… what a concept!