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	<title>Comments on: WaPo Calls Bullshit on Rumsfeld, Bush; I Wax Religious</title>
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		<title>By: leftbehind</title>
		<link>http://www.lies.com/wp/2004/12/24/wapo-calls-bullshit-on-rumsfeld-bush/#comment-32097</link>
		<dc:creator>leftbehind</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Sep 2006 02:06:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You should, considering the fact I read Lyndon LaRouche a lot, too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You should, considering the fact I read Lyndon LaRouche a lot, too.</p>
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		<title>By: jbc</title>
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		<dc:creator>jbc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Sep 2006 19:11:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Heh. I'll take that as a compliment.</description>
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		<title>By: leftbehind</title>
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		<dc:creator>leftbehind</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Sep 2006 18:19:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JBC - I can't believe I missed this post the first time around.  It is, hands down, one of the nuttiest goddamn things I have ever read on any blog.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JBC - I can&#8217;t believe I missed this post the first time around.  It is, hands down, one of the nuttiest goddamn things I have ever read on any blog.</p>
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		<title>By: TeacherVet</title>
		<link>http://www.lies.com/wp/2004/12/24/wapo-calls-bullshit-on-rumsfeld-bush/#comment-11789</link>
		<dc:creator>TeacherVet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Jan 2005 22:35:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The same ridiculous, cowardly arguments were advanced &lt;i&gt;before and during&lt;/i&gt; the 18th century fight for independence, the 19th century fight to preserve the Union, and both World Wars.  Thank God a sense of self-preservation prevailed every time.  I am thankful that we are not under the rule of the Crown, the Kaiser, or the Third Reich; but we would be if opposition voices had prevailed.

I know, many think we should have ignored the threats of Saddam and waited for an attack; and many certainly care nothing about the plight of the Iraqi people under Ba'athist rule (only 15% of the Iraqi population).  I suppose those same people were supportive of the small minority who once ruled South Africa.  The difference is that the Iraqi people, after 30 years of torture and slaughter, had lost both the will and the means of gaining human rights on their own.

Yeah, right, we found no WMDs, and that is the only reason many &lt;i&gt;choose&lt;/i&gt; to remember as the reason for going to war.  All we found were (1) newly-manufactured suits to protect Saddam's troops from their own WMD, unless he was just an eccentric collector of such items, and (2) huge stockpiles of WMD ingredients.  (Keep in mind that such weapons lose their effectiveness potential in storage, so the ingredients &lt;i&gt;that we found&lt;/i&gt; were not yet mixed).  So you're right, we found no active WMD; only the capacity to produce them within hours.

Saddam was truly an eccentric collector of strange items; WMD ingredients, protective suits, mass graves of dead bodies, and more weapon caches and ammunition dumps than can be imagined.  Since he was only an collector (disregarding his history, of course), his repeated threats should have been ignored?  Are we really that selfish, or that blind, or that uncaring, or that cowardly?  Or is the anti-war effort simply and anti-Bush effort?

The freedom of the Iraqi people was sufficient justification for our actions, just as it was with our 4 wars in the 1990s, and regime change was the consistently stated goal.  Take a cue from Bill Clinton, who expressed a necessity for "regime change" in Iraq.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The same ridiculous, cowardly arguments were advanced <i>before and during</i> the 18th century fight for independence, the 19th century fight to preserve the Union, and both World Wars.  Thank God a sense of self-preservation prevailed every time.  I am thankful that we are not under the rule of the Crown, the Kaiser, or the Third Reich; but we would be if opposition voices had prevailed.</p>
<p>I know, many think we should have ignored the threats of Saddam and waited for an attack; and many certainly care nothing about the plight of the Iraqi people under Ba&#8217;athist rule (only 15% of the Iraqi population).  I suppose those same people were supportive of the small minority who once ruled South Africa.  The difference is that the Iraqi people, after 30 years of torture and slaughter, had lost both the will and the means of gaining human rights on their own.</p>
<p>Yeah, right, we found no WMDs, and that is the only reason many <i>choose</i> to remember as the reason for going to war.  All we found were (1) newly-manufactured suits to protect Saddam&#8217;s troops from their own WMD, unless he was just an eccentric collector of such items, and (2) huge stockpiles of WMD ingredients.  (Keep in mind that such weapons lose their effectiveness potential in storage, so the ingredients <i>that we found</i> were not yet mixed).  So you&#8217;re right, we found no active WMD; only the capacity to produce them within hours.</p>
<p>Saddam was truly an eccentric collector of strange items; WMD ingredients, protective suits, mass graves of dead bodies, and more weapon caches and ammunition dumps than can be imagined.  Since he was only an collector (disregarding his history, of course), his repeated threats should have been ignored?  Are we really that selfish, or that blind, or that uncaring, or that cowardly?  Or is the anti-war effort simply and anti-Bush effort?</p>
<p>The freedom of the Iraqi people was sufficient justification for our actions, just as it was with our 4 wars in the 1990s, and regime change was the consistently stated goal.  Take a cue from Bill Clinton, who expressed a necessity for &#8220;regime change&#8221; in Iraq.</p>
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		<title>By: chimpy</title>
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		<dc:creator>chimpy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Jan 2005 20:39:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Of course I dont want a draft. Just want those who voted for warmonger bush to prove that they will fight for their president and his causes no matter how ridiculous. If all who voted for war went , the rest of us who dont believe can come home.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course I dont want a draft. Just want those who voted for warmonger bush to prove that they will fight for their president and his causes no matter how ridiculous. If all who voted for war went , the rest of us who dont believe can come home.</p>
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		<title>By: TeacherVet</title>
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		<dc:creator>TeacherVet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Jan 2005 02:22:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry I misspelled Democrat - unintentional.  By the way, Zachary (my nephew) is a registered Democrat.</description>
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		<title>By: TeacherVet</title>
		<link>http://www.lies.com/wp/2004/12/24/wapo-calls-bullshit-on-rumsfeld-bush/#comment-11690</link>
		<dc:creator>TeacherVet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Jan 2005 02:19:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>chimpy/neighbor:  Are you serious?  The last successful attempt to institute a draft was accomplished by a Democrat.  The last &lt;i&gt;un&lt;/i&gt;successful attempt in institute a draft (in 2004) was introduced/supported by Democracs.  I think you forget to include your wish that &lt;i&gt;only registered Republicans&lt;/i&gt; be a stipulation, and I know Rep. Davis would never introduce such discriminating legislation.  We don't need a draft, we need exactly what we now have - voluntary service by young men and women who are mature enough to recognize the dangers in our world, with no political considerations.

I don't have a bus, but this weekend I am driving my marine nephew to North Carolina for immediate deployment to Iraq on the 15th.  He believes in the mission, and is willing to submit himself to the inherent dangers for &lt;i&gt;our&lt;/i&gt; benefit.  He entered the Marines after 9/11, he graduated from high school in the "top 10" of his class, and his parents are fairly wealthy business owners; so he did not enlist either with a need for government entitlements or because he lacks a future in the civilian world.  I will be driving his SUV, complete with his ridiculous yellow ribbon, back to his Georgia home.  I'm sure that you, in your "heart of hearts," wish him safety and success.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>chimpy/neighbor:  Are you serious?  The last successful attempt to institute a draft was accomplished by a Democrat.  The last <i>un</i>successful attempt in institute a draft (in 2004) was introduced/supported by Democracs.  I think you forget to include your wish that <i>only registered Republicans</i> be a stipulation, and I know Rep. Davis would never introduce such discriminating legislation.  We don&#8217;t need a draft, we need exactly what we now have - voluntary service by young men and women who are mature enough to recognize the dangers in our world, with no political considerations.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t have a bus, but this weekend I am driving my marine nephew to North Carolina for immediate deployment to Iraq on the 15th.  He believes in the mission, and is willing to submit himself to the inherent dangers for <i>our</i> benefit.  He entered the Marines after 9/11, he graduated from high school in the &#8220;top 10&#8243; of his class, and his parents are fairly wealthy business owners; so he did not enlist either with a need for government entitlements or because he lacks a future in the civilian world.  I will be driving his SUV, complete with his ridiculous yellow ribbon, back to his Georgia home.  I&#8217;m sure that you, in your &#8220;heart of hearts,&#8221; wish him safety and success.</p>
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		<title>By: chimpy</title>
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		<dc:creator>chimpy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Jan 2005 22:48:24 +0000</pubDate>
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Commentary: An Urgent Call to Republicans 

Hey, Republicans! If you voted for this war, go fight in it.
By Donald Trader

I’d like to put out an urgent call to Republicans to make sure their sons and daughters volunteer for active military service. Uncle Sam needs you. National Guard and Army Reserve recruitment is falling short by some 50%, and it’s getting tougher and tougher for the Marines, the Army and the other services to get the kind of recruit they want. Wait a minute – the Marines and the Army ought to be flooded with volunteers!

I know that George Bush ran as a war president, and his main declaration was that he would stay the course in Iraq and Afghanistan, and wherever he felt military intervention was required. He held one crowded and cheering rally after another on this theme all across the United States, including Tennessee. I saw all those good people on TV waving their American flags and doing high fives. I read many letters in this very newspaper supporting the war, including some from students of fighting age.

Some 59,000,000 Americans voted for George Bush and the Republicans. That includes the majority of the people in Tennessee. So why are we short of recruits to fight in Iraq? We ought to be inundated with enthusiastic volunteers. Tomorrow morning, I’d like to see 59,000,000 SUV’s pulling up in front of Marine Corps and Army enlistment offices. I see Tax Cut Hummers full of happy families, including healthy looking young people, whizzing by U.S. recruitment offices, and I wonder what the problem is: brake failure every time you get close to signing up to fight in a war you supported for a President you elected?

Now if you’re a young Republican who hates taxes and supports the war in Iraq, you can’t get away any longer with a ridiculous yellow ribbon on the back of your car. You’re going to have to pay for the war, and you’re going to have to fight in it. Who did you think was going to do that, if not you? Democrats?

I’ll volunteer to drive busloads of young Republican volunteers to their first military basic training session after they enlist. And there should be a huge number of volunteers; I don’t think Republicans are cowardly blowhards like most Democrats. Otherwise, I’m sorry to say, I’m going to tell my Congressman Lincoln Davis that we need a military draft in this country. The reason is simple: we need to hold people accountable for what they do, and it’s time for Republicans to go face combat and support their Commander in Chief. You voted for it. Now go get in it.</description>
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<p>Commentary: An Urgent Call to Republicans </p>
<p>Hey, Republicans! If you voted for this war, go fight in it.<br />
By Donald Trader</p>
<p>I’d like to put out an urgent call to Republicans to make sure their sons and daughters volunteer for active military service. Uncle Sam needs you. National Guard and Army Reserve recruitment is falling short by some 50%, and it’s getting tougher and tougher for the Marines, the Army and the other services to get the kind of recruit they want. Wait a minute – the Marines and the Army ought to be flooded with volunteers!</p>
<p>I know that George Bush ran as a war president, and his main declaration was that he would stay the course in Iraq and Afghanistan, and wherever he felt military intervention was required. He held one crowded and cheering rally after another on this theme all across the United States, including Tennessee. I saw all those good people on TV waving their American flags and doing high fives. I read many letters in this very newspaper supporting the war, including some from students of fighting age.</p>
<p>Some 59,000,000 Americans voted for George Bush and the Republicans. That includes the majority of the people in Tennessee. So why are we short of recruits to fight in Iraq? We ought to be inundated with enthusiastic volunteers. Tomorrow morning, I’d like to see 59,000,000 SUV’s pulling up in front of Marine Corps and Army enlistment offices. I see Tax Cut Hummers full of happy families, including healthy looking young people, whizzing by U.S. recruitment offices, and I wonder what the problem is: brake failure every time you get close to signing up to fight in a war you supported for a President you elected?</p>
<p>Now if you’re a young Republican who hates taxes and supports the war in Iraq, you can’t get away any longer with a ridiculous yellow ribbon on the back of your car. You’re going to have to pay for the war, and you’re going to have to fight in it. Who did you think was going to do that, if not you? Democrats?</p>
<p>I’ll volunteer to drive busloads of young Republican volunteers to their first military basic training session after they enlist. And there should be a huge number of volunteers; I don’t think Republicans are cowardly blowhards like most Democrats. Otherwise, I’m sorry to say, I’m going to tell my Congressman Lincoln Davis that we need a military draft in this country. The reason is simple: we need to hold people accountable for what they do, and it’s time for Republicans to go face combat and support their Commander in Chief. You voted for it. Now go get in it.</p>
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		<title>By: TeacherVet</title>
		<link>http://www.lies.com/wp/2004/12/24/wapo-calls-bullshit-on-rumsfeld-bush/#comment-11679</link>
		<dc:creator>TeacherVet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Jan 2005 22:03:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No need to apologize, Sven.  I realized your intentions, and should have inserted a &lt;i&gt;happy face&lt;/i&gt; after the "&lt;i&gt;really&lt;/i&gt; disagree this time" comment, because it was a goofy, unintentionally disguised attempt at humor (I was not expressing serious disagreement).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No need to apologize, Sven.  I realized your intentions, and should have inserted a <i>happy face</i> after the &#8220;<i>really</i> disagree this time&#8221; comment, because it was a goofy, unintentionally disguised attempt at humor (I was not expressing serious disagreement).</p>
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		<title>By: Sven</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sven</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Jan 2005 19:29:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My apologies -- after rereading what I wrote, I can see that what I meant as a compliment might not have been taken that way. I meant thankless in terms of monetarily, and in the bureaucracy  that comes with it. No doubt, the job itself is very rewarding.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My apologies &#8212; after rereading what I wrote, I can see that what I meant as a compliment might not have been taken that way. I meant thankless in terms of monetarily, and in the bureaucracy  that comes with it. No doubt, the job itself is very rewarding.</p>
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		<title>By: TeacherVet</title>
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		<dc:creator>TeacherVet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Jan 2005 08:57:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I've disagreed with you in the past, but I &lt;i&gt;really&lt;/i&gt; disagree this time - while the pay isn't great, the job certainly isn't thankless.  Some of our "clients" provide us with heartache and constant challenges, but the ones who wait at the front door of the school for you in the mornings, ask you to eat with them at lunch, and drop by the room before loading the bus provide gratitude that can't be bought.  I know that probably sounds corny, but it's the greatest job in the world.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve disagreed with you in the past, but I <i>really</i> disagree this time - while the pay isn&#8217;t great, the job certainly isn&#8217;t thankless.  Some of our &#8220;clients&#8221; provide us with heartache and constant challenges, but the ones who wait at the front door of the school for you in the mornings, ask you to eat with them at lunch, and drop by the room before loading the bus provide gratitude that can&#8217;t be bought.  I know that probably sounds corny, but it&#8217;s the greatest job in the world.</p>
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		<title>By: Sven</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sven</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Jan 2005 04:22:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm not so much "hoping" to find an impeachable offense as I'm dismayed at the current state of our planet. A government controlled media also frightens me. You're right, politics and politicians are ripe with scandals, and I wouldn't relish the thought of a President Cheney either. Unfortunately, not everyone chooses a thankless but honorable profession like teaching.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not so much &#8220;hoping&#8221; to find an impeachable offense as I&#8217;m dismayed at the current state of our planet. A government controlled media also frightens me. You&#8217;re right, politics and politicians are ripe with scandals, and I wouldn&#8217;t relish the thought of a President Cheney either. Unfortunately, not everyone chooses a thankless but honorable profession like teaching.</p>
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		<title>By: TeacherVet</title>
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		<dc:creator>TeacherVet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Jan 2005 22:37:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sven, I suppose many are hoping that some impeachable scandalous situation will emerge to give America another black eye.  President Bush was criticized for not making a "statement of admission" similar to the one made by Armstrong Williams, knowing that such an "admission" would only encourage the attacks.  The administration has issued statements with regard to the Williams episode.

Be careful what you wish for.  If the Left manages to get rid of George Bush, they will be left with Dick Cheney - and there may not be enough time to "get" both of them.

I don't think it is a proper way of using our tax dollars, but I can easily discover worse ways - by searching for some of the ridiculous, self-serving pork that &lt;i&gt;always&lt;/i&gt; accompanies "must pass" legislation.

Looking for scandal?  It might be time to get into a discussion of the "Oil for Palaces" program.  Strangely, in most MSM outlets, the topic is non-existent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sven, I suppose many are hoping that some impeachable scandalous situation will emerge to give America another black eye.  President Bush was criticized for not making a &#8220;statement of admission&#8221; similar to the one made by Armstrong Williams, knowing that such an &#8220;admission&#8221; would only encourage the attacks.  The administration has issued statements with regard to the Williams episode.</p>
<p>Be careful what you wish for.  If the Left manages to get rid of George Bush, they will be left with Dick Cheney - and there may not be enough time to &#8220;get&#8221; both of them.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think it is a proper way of using our tax dollars, but I can easily discover worse ways - by searching for some of the ridiculous, self-serving pork that <i>always</i> accompanies &#8220;must pass&#8221; legislation.</p>
<p>Looking for scandal?  It might be time to get into a discussion of the &#8220;Oil for Palaces&#8221; program.  Strangely, in most MSM outlets, the topic is non-existent.</p>
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		<title>By: Sven</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sven</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Jan 2005 22:08:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm sure I'll be branded a lunatic for saying this, but:

I actually think the Armstrong Williams scandal has the potential to be more damaging to the Bush presidency than Watergate to Nixon, and more impeachable than Clinton's lying about his indescretions. Sure, Willams has been honest about it AFTER HE WAS CAUGHT. He was more than happy to accept it beforehand. And what has the Bush administration said about it? Nothing, to my knowledge. If they are willing to fund this bit of propaganda about NCLB, who else are they bribing in the media, and for what other issues? Social Security? Iraq? Great way to spend our tax dollars. But will anything be done about it? Probably not with the Republican party in control of virtually everything.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m sure I&#8217;ll be branded a lunatic for saying this, but:</p>
<p>I actually think the Armstrong Williams scandal has the potential to be more damaging to the Bush presidency than Watergate to Nixon, and more impeachable than Clinton&#8217;s lying about his indescretions. Sure, Willams has been honest about it AFTER HE WAS CAUGHT. He was more than happy to accept it beforehand. And what has the Bush administration said about it? Nothing, to my knowledge. If they are willing to fund this bit of propaganda about NCLB, who else are they bribing in the media, and for what other issues? Social Security? Iraq? Great way to spend our tax dollars. But will anything be done about it? Probably not with the Republican party in control of virtually everything.</p>
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		<title>By: TeacherVet</title>
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		<dc:creator>TeacherVet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Jan 2005 19:24:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, Sven, I agree with almost everything you said.  Criticism of policy is often the most effective method of invoking change.  The hateful methods used in recent months and years merely put folks on the defensive, and change seldom results.  Assuming that most people realize that fact, it is doubtful that &lt;i&gt;policy change&lt;/i&gt; is the real goal when individuals are attacked.  Your approach is sensible, and I wish a few lawmakers could learn from it.  I care much more about the future of my country than I do about &lt;i&gt;any&lt;/i&gt; President or candidate.

Your comments on the tsunami issue are &lt;i&gt;"right on"&lt;/i&gt;.

NCLB merit pay?  A version of it was tried here (still), and the results were predictable.  The same schools are rewarded each year, and those of us teaching in "less privileged" areas never recieve anything (except harrassment from the State Dept. of Education).  Thankfully, most of our teachers entered the field realizing that it is a service, not a means to great riches.  I have summer employment that pays 5 times the hourly salary, but, like many teachers, I choose education as a career.  It is often not true that "Those who can't do...teach."

Armstrong Williams has acknowledged that he had "doubts" about the ethics of accepting the money, and he has admitted that he "crossed the line" and is willing to do whatever is expected of him.  The money should be returned by any means necessary, but his personal honestly is quite evident.

By the way, the bet wasn't meant to be silly, but sincere; I've never bought a lottery ticket, and wouldn't know what to do with one - I would bet on nothing less certain than a 4-inch putt.

Bill</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Sven, I agree with almost everything you said.  Criticism of policy is often the most effective method of invoking change.  The hateful methods used in recent months and years merely put folks on the defensive, and change seldom results.  Assuming that most people realize that fact, it is doubtful that <i>policy change</i> is the real goal when individuals are attacked.  Your approach is sensible, and I wish a few lawmakers could learn from it.  I care much more about the future of my country than I do about <i>any</i> President or candidate.</p>
<p>Your comments on the tsunami issue are <i>&#8220;right on&#8221;</i>.</p>
<p>NCLB merit pay?  A version of it was tried here (still), and the results were predictable.  The same schools are rewarded each year, and those of us teaching in &#8220;less privileged&#8221; areas never recieve anything (except harrassment from the State Dept. of Education).  Thankfully, most of our teachers entered the field realizing that it is a service, not a means to great riches.  I have summer employment that pays 5 times the hourly salary, but, like many teachers, I choose education as a career.  It is often not true that &#8220;Those who can&#8217;t do&#8230;teach.&#8221;</p>
<p>Armstrong Williams has acknowledged that he had &#8220;doubts&#8221; about the ethics of accepting the money, and he has admitted that he &#8220;crossed the line&#8221; and is willing to do whatever is expected of him.  The money should be returned by any means necessary, but his personal honestly is quite evident.</p>
<p>By the way, the bet wasn&#8217;t meant to be silly, but sincere; I&#8217;ve never bought a lottery ticket, and wouldn&#8217;t know what to do with one - I would bet on nothing less certain than a 4-inch putt.</p>
<p>Bill</p>
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		<title>By: Sven</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sven</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Jan 2005 04:52:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Regarding No Child Left Behind, I just found this:

http://www.cnn.com/2005/ALLPOLITICS/01/07/bush.journalist.ap/index.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Regarding No Child Left Behind, I just found this:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.cnn.com/2005/ALLPOLITICS/01/07/bush.journalist.ap/index.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.cnn.com/2005/ALLPOLITICS/01/07/bush.journalist.ap/index.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Sven</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sven</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Jan 2005 04:28:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'll see if I can get through this post without any insults. I'm glad to  hear you can disagree with some of Bush's policies yourself, Bill. My wife is a teacher herself. I think most teachers would agree that NCLB is a failure, where teachers end up mearly teaching to the test. Although I realize it was a bi-partisan law, to me it seems Democrats are willing to change &#038; fix it (although I'm not sure what that means) whereas Bush touts it as one of his great successes.

I'll agree that there is too much name calling between the two parties-- neither side is innocent. But I do think criticism of our president is justifiable. You disagree with NCLB and his immigration policies, and others of us dissagree with his war in Iraq.

And to answer a question I've  seen you ask repeatedly here, I don't believe there was a set amount Bush should have pledged immediately after the Tsunami disaster. But I don't think he handled it well in the days after either. Rather than offer the paultry 15 million initially, and upping the ante several times in the next several days, he could have pledged to do all we can to aid the Tsunami victims without giving specifics  right away. After finding out the enormity of the disaster, he could have then pledged a more generous amount. Being as defensive as he was in the matter was not very presidential in my view. Criticism with the way he handled it is justifiable if it gets the results we are looking for.

And please forgive my previous "trailer" comment, as it was mearly meant as a silly comment in response to what I perceived as a silly bet. As a teacher, be grateful you don't live in California like we do. If Governor "Ahnold" gets his way with "merit pay" for teachers, we may end up moving into a trailer ourselves.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll see if I can get through this post without any insults. I&#8217;m glad to  hear you can disagree with some of Bush&#8217;s policies yourself, Bill. My wife is a teacher herself. I think most teachers would agree that NCLB is a failure, where teachers end up mearly teaching to the test. Although I realize it was a bi-partisan law, to me it seems Democrats are willing to change &#038; fix it (although I&#8217;m not sure what that means) whereas Bush touts it as one of his great successes.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll agree that there is too much name calling between the two parties&#8211; neither side is innocent. But I do think criticism of our president is justifiable. You disagree with NCLB and his immigration policies, and others of us dissagree with his war in Iraq.</p>
<p>And to answer a question I&#8217;ve  seen you ask repeatedly here, I don&#8217;t believe there was a set amount Bush should have pledged immediately after the Tsunami disaster. But I don&#8217;t think he handled it well in the days after either. Rather than offer the paultry 15 million initially, and upping the ante several times in the next several days, he could have pledged to do all we can to aid the Tsunami victims without giving specifics  right away. After finding out the enormity of the disaster, he could have then pledged a more generous amount. Being as defensive as he was in the matter was not very presidential in my view. Criticism with the way he handled it is justifiable if it gets the results we are looking for.</p>
<p>And please forgive my previous &#8220;trailer&#8221; comment, as it was mearly meant as a silly comment in response to what I perceived as a silly bet. As a teacher, be grateful you don&#8217;t live in California like we do. If Governor &#8220;Ahnold&#8221; gets his way with &#8220;merit pay&#8221; for teachers, we may end up moving into a trailer ourselves.</p>
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		<title>By: TeacherVet</title>
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		<dc:creator>TeacherVet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Jan 2005 00:05:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brian, did you overlook the four questions in the first paragraph of my January 5, 8:14 pm post?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brian, did you overlook the four questions in the first paragraph of my January 5, 8:14 pm post?</p>
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		<title>By: TeacherVet</title>
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		<dc:creator>TeacherVet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Jan 2005 00:00:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, Brian, you almost made it through a logical argument without using derisive name-calling, but just couldn't quite resist the temptation at the end.  For the record, several months before the recent election I e-mailed the RNC with my detailed, very critical concerns in two primary areas - immigration policy and the "No Child Left Behind" legislation.  I received a prompt, courteous, personalized reply, with &lt;i&gt;very predictable&lt;/i&gt; statements justifying the Bush position.  I still disagreed with both sets of policies, and I continue to have serious concerns about both issues.

The same afternoon, I emailed the DNC with similar expressions of concern.  I received a prompt reply, which I now realize should have been &lt;i&gt;very predictable&lt;/i&gt; - an e-mail with no words; only an attached "worm," a program that literally ate up my hard drive.  The email was traced back to a section of the DNC Web site by 3 different technicians.  I still have the original destructive little devil saved on a CD, and would agree to forward it to anyone who finds the act unbelievable - but not happily or vindictively, &lt;i&gt;and only by request&lt;/i&gt;.  On that day, I made my decision about the character of each party.  The absolute &lt;i&gt;meanness&lt;/i&gt; of the "Left" has proven that decision to be correct time and again.

I strongly disagree (redundancy) with current immigration policy, but the President is in a familiar kismet;  if the borders were shut down, at least two negatives/criticisms surface immediately - a serious lack of workers to do the low-paying, dirty tasks that so many Americans are unwilling to do, and screaming about violations of the sadred words on the Statue of Liberty, "Give Us Your Tired, Your Poor, Your Huddled Masses," etc.  The &lt;i&gt;Left&lt;/i&gt; will criticize &lt;i&gt;any&lt;/i&gt; move that is made, so President Bush must do something that is not understood by many on the Left - &lt;i&gt;make a decison&lt;/i&gt;, live with the predictable criticism, and "work to make it work."  Has anyone noticed the news that seems to be somehow leaking out - an increased number of "detainees" on our Southern border?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, Brian, you almost made it through a logical argument without using derisive name-calling, but just couldn&#8217;t quite resist the temptation at the end.  For the record, several months before the recent election I e-mailed the RNC with my detailed, very critical concerns in two primary areas - immigration policy and the &#8220;No Child Left Behind&#8221; legislation.  I received a prompt, courteous, personalized reply, with <i>very predictable</i> statements justifying the Bush position.  I still disagreed with both sets of policies, and I continue to have serious concerns about both issues.</p>
<p>The same afternoon, I emailed the DNC with similar expressions of concern.  I received a prompt reply, which I now realize should have been <i>very predictable</i> - an e-mail with no words; only an attached &#8220;worm,&#8221; a program that literally ate up my hard drive.  The email was traced back to a section of the DNC Web site by 3 different technicians.  I still have the original destructive little devil saved on a CD, and would agree to forward it to anyone who finds the act unbelievable - but not happily or vindictively, <i>and only by request</i>.  On that day, I made my decision about the character of each party.  The absolute <i>meanness</i> of the &#8220;Left&#8221; has proven that decision to be correct time and again.</p>
<p>I strongly disagree (redundancy) with current immigration policy, but the President is in a familiar kismet;  if the borders were shut down, at least two negatives/criticisms surface immediately - a serious lack of workers to do the low-paying, dirty tasks that so many Americans are unwilling to do, and screaming about violations of the sadred words on the Statue of Liberty, &#8220;Give Us Your Tired, Your Poor, Your Huddled Masses,&#8221; etc.  The <i>Left</i> will criticize <i>any</i> move that is made, so President Bush must do something that is not understood by many on the Left - <i>make a decison</i>, live with the predictable criticism, and &#8220;work to make it work.&#8221;  Has anyone noticed the news that seems to be somehow leaking out - an increased number of &#8220;detainees&#8221; on our Southern border?</p>
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		<title>By: Brian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Jan 2005 19:23:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OK Bill. i'm going to try this one more time.Bush claims that the security of this nation is his number one priority. That fact is indisputable. Bush also supports the crossing of our borders by illegal , undocumented people who will "do the jobs that Americans don't want", even as his more sane Republican collegues are howling in protest. That fact is also indisputable. That would be like telling your family that their safety means the world to you , and then leaving the doors unlocked when you go out. That's called insecurity. Since the 2 are polar opposites , Bush cannot realistically stand for both. Since actions speak louder than words , anyone with half a brain can see where Shrub stands on this issue</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK Bill. i&#8217;m going to try this one more time.Bush claims that the security of this nation is his number one priority. That fact is indisputable. Bush also supports the crossing of our borders by illegal , undocumented people who will &#8220;do the jobs that Americans don&#8217;t want&#8221;, even as his more sane Republican collegues are howling in protest. That fact is also indisputable. That would be like telling your family that their safety means the world to you , and then leaving the doors unlocked when you go out. That&#8217;s called insecurity. Since the 2 are polar opposites , Bush cannot realistically stand for both. Since actions speak louder than words , anyone with half a brain can see where Shrub stands on this issue</p>
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