Comments on: So, You Want to Be in a Moveon Commercial, Huh? http://www.lies.com/wp/2004/07/23/so-you-want-to-be-in-a-moveon-commercial-huh/ believe nothing... Thu, 25 Apr 2013 14:34:22 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.2 By: yian http://www.lies.com/wp/2004/07/23/so-you-want-to-be-in-a-moveon-commercial-huh/#comment-5551 yian Mon, 09 Aug 2004 21:38:16 +0000 http://www.lies.com/wp/2004/07/23/so-you-want-to-be-in-a-moveon-commercial-huh/#comment-5551 well, the final 17 cuts are up, and i didn't make it. but as i was telling john, i'm still glad i got to go and experience the whole thing. it's also fun to watch the various ads and recognize faces and names of people i'd been able to chat with just briefly, but know that we all were there because of a common belief and cause - get Bush out of office! check out the ads: http://www.moveonpac.org/morris/?id=3242-3195844-.nP9c7T09EYIuVMFZwT.8w cheers, yian well, the final 17 cuts are up, and i didn’t make it. but as i was telling john, i’m still glad i got to go and experience the whole thing. it’s also fun to watch the various ads and recognize faces and names of people i’d been able to chat with just briefly, but know that we all were there because of a common belief and cause – get Bush out of office!

check out the ads:
http://www.moveonpac.org/morris/?id=3242-3195844-.nP9c7T09EYIuVMFZwT.8w

cheers,
yian

]]> By: Fantuberance http://www.lies.com/wp/2004/07/23/so-you-want-to-be-in-a-moveon-commercial-huh/#comment-5546 Fantuberance Mon, 09 Aug 2004 19:09:14 +0000 http://www.lies.com/wp/2004/07/23/so-you-want-to-be-in-a-moveon-commercial-huh/#comment-5546 Yian, your article rocked. It's great to hear that we all have a (potential) voice in this one. It's also refreshing to hear that the people in the anti-Bush camp aren't all the same. a_stupid_box, from your description I believe your understanding of Athiesm (and Athiests) may be weak and is certainly inflammatory (flamebait/trollish). Without discussing this any further with you, I would suggest reading: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Athiest Yian, your article rocked. It’s great to hear that we all have a (potential) voice in this one. It’s also refreshing to hear that the people in the anti-Bush camp aren’t all the same.

a_stupid_box, from your description I believe your understanding of Athiesm (and Athiests) may be weak and is certainly inflammatory (flamebait/trollish). Without discussing this any further with you, I would suggest reading: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Athiest

]]> By: yian http://www.lies.com/wp/2004/07/23/so-you-want-to-be-in-a-moveon-commercial-huh/#comment-5354 yian Mon, 26 Jul 2004 21:51:09 +0000 http://www.lies.com/wp/2004/07/23/so-you-want-to-be-in-a-moveon-commercial-huh/#comment-5354 darn it. the coordinator i contacted says that they have just started editing some of the spots and that Moveon will be testing them in front of focus groups. she said to contact her back around middle of august, so i guess it'll be a while before we see these. maybe september? darn it. the coordinator i contacted says that they have just started editing some of the spots and that Moveon will be testing them in front of focus groups. she said to contact her back around middle of august, so i guess it’ll be a while before we see these. maybe september?

]]> By: yian http://www.lies.com/wp/2004/07/23/so-you-want-to-be-in-a-moveon-commercial-huh/#comment-5350 yian Mon, 26 Jul 2004 15:22:54 +0000 http://www.lies.com/wp/2004/07/23/so-you-want-to-be-in-a-moveon-commercial-huh/#comment-5350 thanks to everyone for their positive comments. i have to say that in the past, i have been more than reluctant to share about my faith, because of the very negative reactions i've gotten - from atheists, agnostics, or those who have been burned by overzealous Christians that Rick mentions. (i was even expecting to get "why don't you fall into more traditional lines?" comments from Christians, but luckily have yet to see those types of comments. :) i do believe that - while it never surprises me anymore on the type of people i can meet and the opinions they have - that everyone should be able to agree to disagree, and proceed with rational, respectful conversation. bashing someone over the head or calling names doesn't help anyone, and it's something i try to avoid. unfortunately with today's day and age, i get the impression that there is a concerted anti-Christian campaign (among others) in the media that portray Christians as merely emotional, non-rational people who embrace a belief that is outdated. hopefully my post has proved otherwise on both points. as i relayed to a_stupid_box, i am trying to find out more info on when the commercials will hit the air, and what channels, and will post an update when i find out. thanks to everyone for their positive comments. i have to say that in the past, i have been more than reluctant to share about my faith, because of the very negative reactions i’ve gotten – from atheists, agnostics, or those who have been burned by overzealous Christians that Rick mentions. (i was even expecting to get “why don’t you fall into more traditional lines?” comments from Christians, but luckily have yet to see those types of comments. :)

i do believe that – while it never surprises me anymore on the type of people i can meet and the opinions they have – that everyone should be able to agree to disagree, and proceed with rational, respectful conversation. bashing someone over the head or calling names doesn’t help anyone, and it’s something i try to avoid. unfortunately with today’s day and age, i get the impression that there is a concerted anti-Christian campaign (among others) in the media that portray Christians as merely emotional, non-rational people who embrace a belief that is outdated. hopefully my post has proved otherwise on both points.

as i relayed to a_stupid_box, i am trying to find out more info on when the commercials will hit the air, and what channels, and will post an update when i find out.

]]> By: rick pietz http://www.lies.com/wp/2004/07/23/so-you-want-to-be-in-a-moveon-commercial-huh/#comment-5348 rick pietz Mon, 26 Jul 2004 14:50:20 +0000 http://www.lies.com/wp/2004/07/23/so-you-want-to-be-in-a-moveon-commercial-huh/#comment-5348 Well, I'm an atheist, but Yian is the kind of christian I wish all christians were. More concerned w/ actually following the teachings of Jesus, which are excellent, than forcing others to follow her beliefs. More of a lead by example, than hitting people over the head with a blunt object. Yian, excellent reporting. Thank you for sharing, and if we're lucky, we won't have this administration in power much longer, and then will come the hard work of trying to repair our country. Well, I’m an atheist, but Yian is the kind of christian I wish all christians were. More concerned w/ actually following the teachings of Jesus, which are excellent, than forcing others to follow her beliefs. More of a lead by example, than hitting people over the head with a blunt object.

Yian, excellent reporting. Thank you for sharing, and if we’re lucky, we won’t have this administration in power much longer, and then will come the hard work of trying to repair our country.

]]> By: a_stupid_box http://www.lies.com/wp/2004/07/23/so-you-want-to-be-in-a-moveon-commercial-huh/#comment-5347 a_stupid_box Mon, 26 Jul 2004 14:31:53 +0000 http://www.lies.com/wp/2004/07/23/so-you-want-to-be-in-a-moveon-commercial-huh/#comment-5347 “Haha, get off the lame atheist bashing, stupid.”

I’m not bashing athiests at all. Being formerly agnostic, I see where they’re coming from. Get of the lame a_stupid_box bashing, ymatt.

“I’m *married* to a Christian despite my lack of any particular faith in a god.”

Congratulations. Do you want a cookie or a medal? Can we please contribute pertinent information? Just because you don’t have any particular faith in a god (my beliefs lean away from a god/gods, actually) doesn’t make you instantly athiest. A refusal to believe that a god/gods exist is what would classify one as an an athiest (a suspended belief — “experiencing is believing” attitude — is what makes an agnostic).

“Although I’m sure there are some out there, I don’t personally know of any other atheists who are rabid, Christian-hating bastards.”

Read stuff on the internet much? Quite a few peoples’ athiesm stems originally from a dislike of religion, which they then follow into a “there’s no god” mindset. If that’s not you, great! You’re a non-zealot athiest, and I respect that. It’s just that usually the zealot athiests are the ones that come out of the woodwork and tear up people like Yian who, although they’ve a good post and interesting information, are Christian — which renders their contributions useless to such people.

Lay off the coffee and amphetimines, ymatt. Nobody’s here to pick a fight.

Yian — I got your email. Thanks :) Even if it doesn’t get posted here I’d be interested in reading the follow-up, so feel free to email it.

]]> By: ymatt http://www.lies.com/wp/2004/07/23/so-you-want-to-be-in-a-moveon-commercial-huh/#comment-5342 ymatt Mon, 26 Jul 2004 00:32:50 +0000 http://www.lies.com/wp/2004/07/23/so-you-want-to-be-in-a-moveon-commercial-huh/#comment-5342 Oh and thanks for the report, Yian. I'm kinda jealous that you got to use the interrotron and the commercial should be pretty interesting. Oh and thanks for the report, Yian. I’m kinda jealous that you got to use the interrotron and the commercial should be pretty interesting.

]]> By: ymatt http://www.lies.com/wp/2004/07/23/so-you-want-to-be-in-a-moveon-commercial-huh/#comment-5341 ymatt Mon, 26 Jul 2004 00:32:19 +0000 http://www.lies.com/wp/2004/07/23/so-you-want-to-be-in-a-moveon-commercial-huh/#comment-5341 Haha, get off the lame atheist bashing, stupid. I'm *married* to a Christian despite my lack of any particular faith in a god. Although I'm sure there are some out there, I don't personally know of any other atheists who are rabid, Christian-hating bastards. Haha, get off the lame atheist bashing, stupid. I’m *married* to a Christian despite my lack of any particular faith in a god. Although I’m sure there are some out there, I don’t personally know of any other atheists who are rabid, Christian-hating bastards.

]]> By: a_stupid_box http://www.lies.com/wp/2004/07/23/so-you-want-to-be-in-a-moveon-commercial-huh/#comment-5333 a_stupid_box Sun, 25 Jul 2004 04:39:23 +0000 http://www.lies.com/wp/2004/07/23/so-you-want-to-be-in-a-moveon-commercial-huh/#comment-5333 I'm impressed. I thank you for sharing this with all of us, and look forward to your debut. My only hope is that you don't get too skewered by the athiests who refuse the very thought of religion serving any good purpose. It seems they're willing to discount anyone who chooses not to share their beliefs (or non-beliefs) as a lunatic. Though I'm not quite Christian (nor any other recognizable faith) I do have a belief that I'm part of something greater than we as humans can fathom. I'm thrilled that you pointed out just how disappointing Bush is as a Christian. I hope that those without faith, or even those with faith, who base their dislike of Christianity on people such as Bush can learn from this. I’m impressed. I thank you for sharing this with all of us, and look forward to your debut. My only hope is that you don’t get too skewered by the athiests who refuse the very thought of religion serving any good purpose. It seems they’re willing to discount anyone who chooses not to share their beliefs (or non-beliefs) as a lunatic.

Though I’m not quite Christian (nor any other recognizable faith) I do have a belief that I’m part of something greater than we as humans can fathom. I’m thrilled that you pointed out just how disappointing Bush is as a Christian. I hope that those without faith, or even those with faith, who base their dislike of Christianity on people such as Bush can learn from this.

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